Re: Re: HYB: hafts, terminology (from photos)

Linda:

I'm not usually into "spray patterns", which are usually veins of white ground
color radiating from the beard, and at times extending over the entire haft of
the falls.  They can (on rare occasions) be attractive to me if the veins are
not white, but from some fruit-toned palette instead
(yellow/pink/salmon/orange...).  Shoulder marking are different, and often
attractive to me.  These are usually an amber, rose, or burgundy overlay
specifically on the shoulders of the haft area rather than under the beard,
more of a solid wash than a veining.  I have also seen a few copper or bronze
lines deep in the shoulder region on some iris; this pattern and the "spray"
pattern are what I refer to as "hafty".  The spray pattern is what I believe
to be caused by plicata genes.  The metallic coppery lines on the shoulder
probably come from a common ancestor of the modern TB lines; I am sure someone
out there can identify it.

John Reeds

----- Original Message -----
  From: Linda Mann
  To: iris- talk
  Sent: Tuesday, May 24, 2005 3:29 AM
  Subject: [iris] Re: HYB: hafts, terminology (from photos)


  The haft is the 'narrow' part of the blade of the fall petal.  Like the
  haft of a spear, with the wide part of the petal the blade on the end of
  the spear.

  With wider hafts, rounding out the falls, the region of the petal that
  is 'haft' becomes more obscure.

  Some hybridizers/catalogs describe edges of the petal as 'shoulder'
  colors or veins, those around the beard as a 'spray pattern'.

  I love veining, spray patterns, and full width "haft marks" on many,
  many blooms, including the seedling in the photo you posted, Donald, and
  agree with you about the terminology confusion.

  Any ideas for what to call dark veins on white ground that cover the
  entire "haft" area?

  Neil, I like your term 'ensataform' (or was it ensatiform?)  for
  flatties, but since everybody already seems to be calling them flatties,
  it might not catch on.

  I had a cute little seedling (no photo) this year with blooms that
  looked like some of the modern siberians I've seen - standards same size
  as the style crests, but a different color, horizontal rounded falls.
  Siberiform? <g>
  --
  Linda Mann east Tennessee USA zone 7/8
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