Re: HYB:Returning Chameleon & Immortality

Betty
I think that knowing what you did with these crosses can help us a lot.
whether we decide to move on to sth different, or we stick to these crosses to go further, all the things you share with us is of unestimable value to my eyes. 

Loic
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Sent: Tuesday, November 21, 2006 3:09 PM
Subject: [iris]HYB:Returning Chameleon & Immortality



In a message dated 11/21/2006 6:25:46 A.M. Central Standard Time,
tasquierloic@cs.com writes:
<<We must listen to Betty when she says the pinks it gives are no good and 
I'm sure Ret. Cham. can do better.>>
Loic, there is no way that my memory of five or six seedlings some 12+ years ago proves that it's NOT a good parent for pink. Seedling #6 might have had 
extremely modern form.  Or maybe a different choice for parent  would have
made the difference? Some people don't get good children from Pink Attraction. 
Even 50 seedlings wouldn't prove a negative.   Strange things happen!
Most of us know that memories can be very deceiving! My memories of these seedlings is a negative. And strong enough that I remember the cross # and where it grew! (And what grew next to it!) None produced good enough form for 
me to take them further.  Also, I was overwhelmed with  seedlings that
spring.

If my memory is correct and these were PINK?  That is revealing.   (Pink
Sleigh x Immortality) But no proof.

Sometimes, when two irises are crossed you get a seedling that is better
than either parent. At one time, I thought this was the case with Returning 
Chameleon.

Later thinking, lead to the conclusion that crosses with Immortality just
did much better when the sparse pollen is extracted from Immortality and applied to other irises of sporadic tendency! Such is the case with both Bridge In Time (Glistening Icicle x Immortality) and Returning Chameleon (Pink Sleigh x 
Immortality).  Anthers that appear barren will, sometimes, reveal limited
pollen when the anther is spit lengthwise, a trick I learned from Lloyd.

Just to take the Immortality mystery a step further?  One 1990 cross  was
Immortality X Paradise. I planted 122 seed and the cross produced two sets of twins. The notes say "all bloomed yellow!" This is a cross I remember very well and saw great potential. Even lined out a couple with plans to breed with it and introduce it. These were taller than most Immortality seedlings and most were well branched. Palest yellow selfs and bitones. Not a bright iris in the bunch. No rebloom. Paradise grows here, but I doubt I'll remake the 
cross.   Immortality doesn't want to set seed here!

People seem to enjoy Returning Chameleon a lot, and for that I'm  happy!
Even I like it when it blooms in July! (Yes, add it to the list) When I lived 
in town, people would walk down the street to make sure  they were really
seeing irises blooming in July. (Summer Radiance would get their attention from 
afar!)



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