Re: intro & Iris pallida 'Variegata'
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  • Subject: Re: intro & Iris pallida 'Variegata'
  • From: &* G* C* <j*@cox.net>
  • Date: Tue, 23 Nov 2010 12:30:20 -0500
Those are great roots. But, as you may know, when you transplant them, they will die -- their only function being to anchor the plant in place while new roots develop.
Good luck with your 2008 seeds. I have just finished soaking my bearded seeds for 10 or more days (I'm late again this year) in order to soften up any germination inhibitor. I will rinse the gunk off and begin planting them later today. -- Griff
-----Original Message----- From: J. Agoston 
Sent: Tuesday, November 23, 2010 9:43 AM
To: iris@hort.net
Subject: Re: [iris] intro & Iris pallida 'Variegata'

Thank you!

What about late autumn early spring transplanting if I can have good roots
like this:
http://picasaweb.google.com/agoston.janos123/Plants#5541997424184674178
I was at granny today, and I've found some Iris seeds back from 2008. I
shall sow them a now :)

Bye,
Janos


2010/11/21 J. Griffin Crump <jgcrump@cox.net>


Janos  --  The Louisianas should do all right in your moist conditions if
it doesn't get too cold for them.  In my area (zone 7a) of northern
Virginia, they prosper through drought, high humidity and winter
temperatures in the teens and 20s Fahrenheit.  I'm surprised that your
spurias did so well in the wet weather, but glad they did.  With the soggy
conditions you describe, though, I think raised beds are going to be a
"must" for your tall beardeds, standard dwarf beardeds, intermediates, etc. 

Generally, bearded irises can be transplanted any time that the ground
isn't frozen too hard to take them, but if one plants too close to the
approach of winter, they may not have time to grow new roots to anchor
themselves against the heaving effects of freeze and thaw. This can result 
in the rhizome emerging from the ground and dying.   While one can
transplant irises just after blooming, I think it puts less stress on the
plant to wait a few weeks  --  up to a couple of months.  When I lived in
Indianapolis, which is on the edges of zones 5a and 5b, we transplanted
rhizomes in August.  At that time, some varieties are in summer dormancy.

I

recommend that you try that and see how it works for you.

If you plant seeds in pots or other containers before winter, you'll want
to transplant them into the ground in the spring.  But that's another

bject.

  --  Griff



-----Original Message----- From: J. Agoston
Sent: Saturday, November 20, 2010 6:08 PM

To: iris@hort.net
Subject: Re: [iris] intro & Iris pallida 'Variegata'

Griff, it is so nice of you trying to use hungarian diacritical marks.
Well the case is  this year my city was flooded with rain, it was a marsh
formerly, so soil is saturated in late autumn till end february, and of
course when it is flooded. XD
Actually I try to sow seeds next week, I managed to get a few from granny,
she has some iris in her garden, I bought them for her, but now i'd like to 
grow some varieties by myself too. I was in the luck of moving them to a
sandy-kind-of-soil. Unexpectedly the wet weather was so good for my Iris
ochroleuca gigantea, the rhizomes have like 6-10 new shoots formed this
year. I've bought some 50/+ spuria varieties and around 10 Louisiana-s,
they
are planted in the clay. I hope they'll survive in Z5a.

I would like to collect I. W flavescens seeds to next year. I hope
something
unexpected will come out! Ohh, and I have to plant the Sky Hooks seeds too. 
Tomorrow I try to send a link with some pictures, if I'll have some time.
And I also would like to know why it is advised to plant bearded iris after 
flowering during summer? I learned that perennials should be transplanted
in
dormancy as bulbs.

Thank you for the warm welcome! I'll be here, read & write if I'll have
time. Thank you Steve too!

Bye,
Janos

2010/11/20 Steve Szabo <steve@familyszabo.com>

 Griff,


If your messages are originally done in HTML, it is the translation to
plain
text that is screwing you up. You need to write them in plain text and
when
you need a diacritical, use the <ALT>ASCII combination to create that
character or use the character map to pick and choose the correct
character.
Do note, however, this only works if the character set you are using
supports those characters.

\\Steve//


-----Original Message-----
From: owner-iris@hort.net [o*@hort.net] On Behalf Of J.
Griffin Crump
Sent: Saturday, November 20, 2010 5:09 PM
To: iris@hort.net
Subject: Re: [iris] intro & Iris pallida 'Variegata'

Rats!  It did it again.  I'll spare everyone another try.  I'm sure Janos
can figure out what I tried to stick together but Yahoo has put asunder.
 At

least, I think it must be Yahoo, since messages in Irish sent to and fro
on
my server (not Yahoo) go through without a hitch.  --  Griff

-----Original Message-----
From: J. Griffin Crump
Sent: Saturday, November 20, 2010 4:53 PM
To: iris@hort.net
Subject: [iris] intro & Iris pallida 'Variegata'

Wow!  What a mess.  Maybe because my reply to Janos was linked to some
other
keyboard system, the email process changed all of the vowels having a
diacritical mark to some other letter  --  thus producing gibberish.
Hopefully, this message will go out as written.  --  Griff


Szervusz, Janos!  --  De jsl beszil angolzl!  Sajnos, nincs nekem magyar
billentyuzet, is azirt nem tudom tovabb magyarzl mrni.

Both i. pallida aureovariegata and i. pallida argenteovariegata have
variegated foliage.  Aureo, as the name suggests, has strong yellow and
green striped leaves, while argenteo has white and silver-green striped
leaves.  An excellent photo of aureo and argenteo growing side by side is
available at http://www.flickr.com/photos/74528046@N00/2105601634/.  I
should think that, since your plant starts off buttery yellow, it is
aureovariegata.  All the illustrations of these two irises that I have
seen
have purple flowers, but I would think/hope that they set seed and that
there would be flower color variations by now.  Have you tried making
crosses yourself?

As to the wet soil, iris pallida, like most bearded irises, likes it dry.
Do you live in the Puszta?  If in a wet part, you may need to construct
raised beds, which isn't hard to do.  We can tell you how.
If you sow bearded iris seeds in the late autumn of, let us say, 2011, you 
will get sprouts in the following spring (2012) and can expect some bloom
in
the next year (2013).

You are very welcome to our list, and I hope that you will maintain
contact
so that you can get a good start on hybridizing in the coming spring.

Ssk szerencsit kmvanok!  --  Griff

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