Re: intro & Iris pallida 'Variegata'
iris@hort.net
  • Subject: Re: intro & Iris pallida 'Variegata'
  • From: &* A* <a*@gmail.com>
  • Date: Tue, 23 Nov 2010 15:43:24 +0100
Thank you!

What about late autumn early spring transplanting if I can have good roots
like this:
http://picasaweb.google.com/agoston.janos123/Plants#5541997424184674178
I was at granny today, and I've found some Iris seeds back from 2008. I
shall sow them a now :)

Bye,
Janos


2010/11/21 J. Griffin Crump <jgcrump@cox.net>

> Janos  --  The Louisianas should do all right in your moist conditions if
> it doesn't get too cold for them.  In my area (zone 7a) of northern
> Virginia, they prosper through drought, high humidity and winter
> temperatures in the teens and 20s Fahrenheit.  I'm surprised that your
> spurias did so well in the wet weather, but glad they did.  With the soggy
> conditions you describe, though, I think raised beds are going to be a
> "must" for your tall beardeds, standard dwarf beardeds, intermediates, etc.
>
> Generally, bearded irises can be transplanted any time that the ground
> isn't frozen too hard to take them, but if one plants too close to the
> approach of winter, they may not have time to grow new roots to anchor
> themselves against the heaving effects of freeze and thaw.  This can result
> in the rhizome emerging from the ground and dying.   While one can
> transplant irises just after blooming, I think it puts less stress on the
> plant to wait a few weeks  --  up to a couple of months.  When I lived in
> Indianapolis, which is on the edges of zones 5a and 5b, we transplanted
> rhizomes in August.  At that time, some varieties are in summer dormancy.
I
> recommend that you try that and see how it works for you.
>
> If you plant seeds in pots or other containers before winter, you'll want
> to transplant them into the ground in the spring.  But that's another
bject.
>   --  Griff
>
>
>
> -----Original Message----- From: J. Agoston
> Sent: Saturday, November 20, 2010 6:08 PM
>
> To: iris@hort.net
> Subject: Re: [iris] intro & Iris pallida 'Variegata'
>
> Griff, it is so nice of you trying to use hungarian diacritical marks.
> Well the case is  this year my city was flooded with rain, it was a marsh
> formerly, so soil is saturated in late autumn till end february, and of
> course when it is flooded. XD
> Actually I try to sow seeds next week, I managed to get a few from granny,
> she has some iris in her garden, I bought them for her, but now i'd like to
> grow some varieties by myself too. I was in the luck of moving them to a
> sandy-kind-of-soil. Unexpectedly the wet weather was so good for my Iris
> ochroleuca gigantea, the rhizomes have like 6-10 new shoots formed this
> year. I've bought some 50/+ spuria varieties and around 10 Louisiana-s,
> they
> are planted in the clay. I hope they'll survive in Z5a.
>
> I would like to collect I. W flavescens seeds to next year. I hope
> something
> unexpected will come out! Ohh, and I have to plant the Sky Hooks seeds too.
> Tomorrow I try to send a link with some pictures, if I'll have some time.
>
> And I also would like to know why it is advised to plant bearded iris after
> flowering during summer? I learned that perennials should be transplanted
> in
> dormancy as bulbs.
>
> Thank you for the warm welcome! I'll be here, read & write if I'll have
> time. Thank you Steve too!
>
> Bye,
> Janos
>
> 2010/11/20 Steve Szabo <steve@familyszabo.com>
>
>  Griff,
>>
>> If your messages are originally done in HTML, it is the translation to
>> plain
>> text that is screwing you up. You need to write them in plain text and
>> when
>> you need a diacritical, use the <ALT>ASCII combination to create that
>> character or use the character map to pick and choose the correct
>> character.
>> Do note, however, this only works if the character set you are using
>> supports those characters.
>>
>> \\Steve//
>>
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: owner-iris@hort.net [o*@hort.net] On Behalf Of J.
>> Griffin Crump
>> Sent: Saturday, November 20, 2010 5:09 PM
>> To: iris@hort.net
>> Subject: Re: [iris] intro & Iris pallida 'Variegata'
>>
>> Rats!  It did it again.  I'll spare everyone another try.  I'm sure Janos
>> can figure out what I tried to stick together but Yahoo has put asunder.
>>  At
>>
>> least, I think it must be Yahoo, since messages in Irish sent to and fro
>> on
>> my server (not Yahoo) go through without a hitch.  --  Griff
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: J. Griffin Crump
>> Sent: Saturday, November 20, 2010 4:53 PM
>> To: iris@hort.net
>> Subject: [iris] intro & Iris pallida 'Variegata'
>>
>> Wow!  What a mess.  Maybe because my reply to Janos was linked to some
>> other
>> keyboard system, the email process changed all of the vowels having a
>> diacritical mark to some other letter  --  thus producing gibberish.
>> Hopefully, this message will go out as written.  --  Griff
>>
>>
>> Szervusz, Janos!  --  De jsl beszil angolzl!  Sajnos, nincs nekem magyar
>> billentyuzet, is azirt nem tudom tovabb magyarzl mrni.
>>
>> Both i. pallida aureovariegata and i. pallida argenteovariegata have
>> variegated foliage.  Aureo, as the name suggests, has strong yellow and
>> green striped leaves, while argenteo has white and silver-green striped
>> leaves.  An excellent photo of aureo and argenteo growing side by side is
>> available at http://www.flickr.com/photos/74528046@N00/2105601634/.  I
>> should think that, since your plant starts off buttery yellow, it is
>> aureovariegata.  All the illustrations of these two irises that I have
>> seen
>> have purple flowers, but I would think/hope that they set seed and that
>> there would be flower color variations by now.  Have you tried making
>> crosses yourself?
>>
>> As to the wet soil, iris pallida, like most bearded irises, likes it dry.
>> Do you live in the Puszta?  If in a wet part, you may need to construct
>> raised beds, which isn't hard to do.  We can tell you how.
>>
>> If you sow bearded iris seeds in the late autumn of, let us say, 2011, you
>> will get sprouts in the following spring (2012) and can expect some bloom
>> in
>> the next year (2013).
>>
>> You are very welcome to our list, and I hope that you will maintain
>> contact
>> so that you can get a good start on hybridizing in the coming spring.
>>
>> Ssk szerencsit kmvanok!  --  Griff
>>
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