HYB : Thornbird (A dog or not a Dog... That is the question)
- Subject: HYB : Thornbird (A dog or not a Dog... That is the question)
- From: P* &* Y* T*
- Date: Fri, 13 Nov 1998 23:04:05 +1100
From: Paul & Yvonne Tyerman <tyerman@dynamite.com.au>
At 14:23 12/11/98 PST, you wrote:
Well said!! Particularly the bit about the 3 opinions being stated as
fact. Arrogance with a capital A.
Many of us out here in the rest of the world don't have your huge choice
of Space Agers. All you guys out there should be thankful you have access
to all of them. I've got one space ager at this point (Deity) with a
number on order from the two main nurseries we actually have here in this
country. I'd love to import more but given that to import an iris into
this country I'd need to pay around $500 for quarantine, plus whaever I
paid for it in the first place, I don't think its going to happen in the
near future :-)
I'm looking forward to hopefully getting a piece of Thornbird from Jan
Clark soon. I'm intending to form my own opinion instead of listening to
what I have been TOLD I'm going to think about it. Obviously if its such a
dog it must be a popular dog..... or else the Dykes Medal is just a heap of
....!! (Which I don't think it is I might add, at least from the little I
know about it).
I'm looking forward to crossing with it simply because of its instability.
If it is so unstable who knows what it is going to throw. Given that it
varies in colour, with horns or spoons or whatever, it MIGHT pass this
trait on to its progeny, but it also might pass a stable form of something
that we don't already have. If you've lost the wonder or interest in this,
then why in the world are there hybridisers out there. Isn't creating
something new the thrill??? I'm definitely only a starting hybridist, and
I'm looking forward so much to seeing if my crosses of re-incarnation (that
Sterling Okase sent pollen of to me) end up taking. Every flower will be a
new thrill (be they dog or whatever)
Anyhow, I haven't responded to a heap of things recently but this one was
worth it. I'd be interested to know poeple's thoughts on this, either on
or off the list.
Cheers People!!
Paul Tyerman
t*@dynamite.com.au
Canberra, Australia.... where the TBs are just finishing, I. pseudacorus is
flowering, Holden Clough is wonderful (isn't it a great colour), Gerald
Darby is in full bud (right behind the I. pseudacorus variegata and making
a statement!) the JAPs, Louisianas and Spurias are setting up buds and
we've just had a good dose of rain which will bring everything on a treat.
>From: "Rusty Thornsburg" <RTburg@mailexcite.com>
>
>You didn't really think I'd let this slip past, did you?
>> From: Bill Shear <BILLS@hsc.edu>
>>
>> Why would you want to use THORNBIRD in crosses when there are so many
>more
>> superior SAs out there? I'd go for CONJURATION or MESMERIZER, or one of
>> the absolutely stunning Sutton introductions for this year.
>
>I agree that Conjuration, Mesmerizer are great, and practically all of the
>Sutton's things are quite stunning.
>
> THORNBIRD's a
>> dog, it's Dykes was a mistake, let's admit it and move on!
>
>Wow, three opinions stated as if fact. Is that a record?
>
>Beauty is in the eye of the beholder.
>
>The AIS, much like the American government, is a democracy. As a judge, you
>can vote or choose not to vote for the Dykes. If you do vote, and your iris
>doesn't win, then at least you've participated in the process, which is more
>than at least half if not 3/4 of AIS members. You may not like this year's
>winner, but there's always next year, and guess what? Conjuration (one of
>the "superior irises" you listed) won for this year.
>
>As for moving on, I'd say that's something for the iris's detractors, not
>fans, to do...
>
>Rusty
>
>
>
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