HYB : Thornbird (A dog or not a Dog... That is the question)
- Subject: HYB : Thornbird (A dog or not a Dog... That is the question)
- From: S* O*
- Date: Fri, 13 Nov 1998 06:25:27 PST
From: "Sterling Okase" <sterling_o@hotmail.com>
>From: Paul & Yvonne Tyerman <tyerman@dynamite.com.au>
>I'd be interested to know poeple's thoughts on this, either on
>or off the list.
Hi Talk-ers,
Regarding Thornbird, there has been quite a bit of discussion on it in
the archives and it looks like there will be yet more discussion ahead.
I agree with some of the opinions that Thornbird's form is not quite as
modern as some of the newer cultivars available. And Thornbird's color
is not to my liking. However, I grew Thornbird for a few years and
though I am not a judge, think very highly of it.
1. Grows very well for me, at least 4 increases per rhizome. And
apparently, grows well in other parts of the country.
2. Blooms every year for me and stays up without staking.
3. Disease resistant, rarely rots or spots.
4. Good bud count, at least 8-10 buds per stalk and blooms sequentially
5. Excellent branching, wide enough to hold flowers away from the stalk
and very consisitent from stalk to stalk.
6. Distictive. You could not mistake Thornbird for anything else in your
garden, even at a distance.
So even if Thornbird's color and form is not to my liking, I would grow
it over something like Witch's Wand that has breathtaking flowers but is
a very poor grower, very rotty and spotty, reluctant bloomer etc.
Just the opinions of an Iris Maniac .............
>
> Cheers People!!
>
> Paul Tyerman
> t*@dynamite.com.au
>
>Canberra, Australia.... where the TBs are just finishing, I.
pseudacorus is
>flowering, Holden Clough is wonderful (isn't it a great colour), Gerald
>Darby is in full bud (right behind the I. pseudacorus variegata and
making
>a statement!) the JAPs, Louisianas and Spurias are setting up buds and
>we've just had a good dose of rain which will bring everything on a
treat.
>
>
>
>>From: "Rusty Thornsburg" <RTburg@mailexcite.com>
>>
>>You didn't really think I'd let this slip past, did you?
>>> From: Bill Shear <BILLS@hsc.edu>
>>>
>>> Why would you want to use THORNBIRD in crosses when there are so
many
>>more
>>> superior SAs out there? I'd go for CONJURATION or MESMERIZER, or
one of
>>> the absolutely stunning Sutton introductions for this year.
>>
>>I agree that Conjuration, Mesmerizer are great, and practically all of
the
>>Sutton's things are quite stunning.
>>
>> THORNBIRD's a
>>> dog, it's Dykes was a mistake, let's admit it and move on!
>>
>>Wow, three opinions stated as if fact. Is that a record?
>>
>>Beauty is in the eye of the beholder.
>>
>>The AIS, much like the American government, is a democracy. As a
judge, you
>>can vote or choose not to vote for the Dykes. If you do vote, and
your iris
>>doesn't win, then at least you've participated in the process, which
is more
>>than at least half if not 3/4 of AIS members. You may not like this
year's
>>winner, but there's always next year, and guess what? Conjuration
(one of
>>the "superior irises" you listed) won for this year.
>>
>>As for moving on, I'd say that's something for the iris's detractors,
not
>>fans, to do...
>>
>>Rusty
>>
>>
>>
>>
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Iris Maniac,
Sterling (not Innerst)
Seattle, WA. Zone 8
AIS, KCIS, HIPS and MIS
And Friday Night Chat-o-phile
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