TB: Aleppo Plain and TB: Firecracker


Does anyone know if the following (historic) iris are available from 
anyone? Or does anyone have any I may be able to obtain a clip from?
Descriptions from www.worldiris.com:

ALEPPO PLAIN TB-La-W8D (Jake Sass R. 41) . Orloff X Y. plicata.
FIRECRACKER (Dave Hall, R. 1941) TB-M-la-R6D, 33". Orloff X Elsa 
Sass. HM 1943. Hall 1943

I would appreciate any info about "Orloff" and "Elsa Sass" including 
either pics or descriptions and if they are available anywhere as 
well.
My hybridizing plans may have encountered a new twist.
Everyday I encounter something else I like.

Thanks so much, 
Steve Mahlberg zone 4b Duluth, Minnesota on the shore of Lake 
Superior.


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