Re: HYB: Backcrosses For Hidden Traits

Thanks, again, to all for their input and tips and suggestions on red toned iris. You are all so very helpful.
Patrick,
True, in my attempts, I may end up with less desireable traits popping back into the picture, but the ''unknown trait(s)'' drive me to dive in and experiment. Us ''newbies'' learn the most from our elders, I think the new iris can learn a thing or two from it's elders :)
Also, working with both moderns and historics in various crosses, space permitting, I will not be completely disappointed with any setbacks, hopefully something good will turn up each season. Unless one has done it before, there is no way of knowing 100% (even knowing the lineage, because of the uncertainty of genetics in iris) what an ''ugly iris'' , that would very well be discarded in someone elses garden, could bring us in an F2 or even F3, if someone wanted to take the time to work with it. I believe even the experienced, seasoned pros never know exactly what to expect, but likely have a pretty darned good idea of what a certain cross will bring them. But, it's the surprises we all wait for.
Hopefully, after my first cross attempts, I will end up with many modern looking and many historic looking iris to work with for F2. Likely, nothing Dykes Medal worthy after those two to three years, but who knows? Everybody gets lucky once in a while... :) If not, wait for F2! *fingers crossed* that's only four years away.... By then I know my hybridizing experiences will have taught me something and helped me to bring the iris world something someone will enjoy besides myself.
 
 
Steve Mahlberg z4b Northeast Minnesota
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 Patrick Orr <PatrickJOrr@hotmail.com> wrote:Margie Wrote:

3.) I for one, am a true believer that there are some  
hidden/undiscovered traits/genes in the older varieties - just  
waiting for someone to find them.  
I'll bet that the majority of those hidden/undiscovered traits will be an increase in haft marks...something hybridizers have spent years trying to clean up.  Working with the older varieties will take a lot more seedlings to get something with a modern form.  Now, if you like the historic look, then you can probably get something in one generation.  
Patrick Orr
Phoenix, AZ  Zone 9
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