Re: :HYB:Pod Vs Pollen Parent


In a message dated 10/19/2002 1:29:01 PM Central Daylight Time, 
s_j_mahlberg@yahoo.com writes:

<< I'm guessing the hybridizer you wrote to may very well have determined 
there to be no difference based on his choices for crosses.... 
hmmmmmmmm......... >>

I suspect you are correct.  Blues by blues, pinks by pinks etc.  If one 
crosses two good blues with good branching and bud count, how does one 
determine which contributed the most genes?  When you breed for rebloom, as 
I've elected to do in 90% of my crosses, irises in the color patterns you 
need/want just may not exist.   This increases the fun!  

Another example.  Several years ago I made this cross: Earl of Essex (short) 
X Hot Streak (tall). Of course, EOE is one of the most dependable rebloomers 
in this area and H.S. reblooms in CA. I got a nice, but shorter, rebloomer 
(here & Memphis) from the cross. Wondering if I could get something taller, I 
made the reverse cross.  

I planted these seedlings in the country last spring.  One tried to bloom 
last fall, but was too late.  Then most of the cross was wiped out by that 
late spring freeze.  A lone plant survived from the clump that bloomed in the 
fall and I have a bloom from it in a vase on my bookcase.  (A sib to it has a 
stalk also.)  The one I have is a light rosy beige, the standards open shot 
with lavender veins (intriguing) which pale, and there is a narrow burgundy 
rim on the falls, burgundy shoulders, a thin burgundy line below the beard 
and a white area around the beard that is not noticeable close up.  

The good thing is that the stalk is a great deal taller than the one from the 
original cross.  I feel relatively sure that the rebloom will also be good.  
Unfortunately, it's hard to build stock when they start reblooming this 
early.  Though I guess we can't technically call this a rebloomer since it 
lost the spring bloom due to the freeze.  

My ultimate goal is burgandy on yellow that reblooms well here. Guess I will 
have to cross a good yellow rebloomer back onto it.  Crossing the original 
seedling (Older one)onto Sutton's INNOCENT STAR gave me a pretty summer (July 
I think) bloomer that was tall but looked like ROCK STAR (a parent of IS).  
Small tight bloom.  Color reminded me of SILK BROCADE.  Not the red & yellow 
combination I was hoping would show up.

I'm getting things so mixed up, chasing the rebloom, that there is little way 
of telling what will show up.  You oughta see this sooty red reblooming thing 
I've got with square shoulders!  Came from crossing mainly yellows and 
purples.  Good branching though.

Betty Wilkerson Zone 6 SouthCentral Kentucky  

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