Re: Re: HYB: HIST: in general curiosity


Laetitia, 
I remember seeing that older post. 
Well, this next season I will be experimenting with some historics and more recent iris crosses. curiosity may have killed a cat or two in the past (as the saying goes), but not this guy... ;)
I'm hoping to experiment with crossing historic to historic, recreate some of the old crosses and see what I can end up with for F2 crosses. Also, it will give me a "general" idea of what hybridizers had to work with or chose from back then. Maybe give me an insight on why they chose the iris they chose to continue working with in future crosses they made.Maybe, give me something "all my own" to work with? I do also plan to cross some moderns. Who knows what will happen when time comes to do the crosses, however.
I hadn't considered working with iris in the past because i'd heard about the length of time (up to 8 years) for germination of seeds. Or the infertility issues, etc. But, now I've got a bit of time and become more interested in iris, so I'm willing to take some time.
I think anyone who has the desire to hybridize iris could succeed. One just has to try it and see what happens, i guess, in certain cases. Most of the hybridizers, i would guess, avoid using older stock because they've already removed or added certain traits from old stock and don't want to risk adding an 'unsightly' recessive trait by backcrossing too much. That's usually a good reason to not "inbreed" or continuously backcross. I guess to me however, not knowing all of the recessive traits lurk in iris, curiosity drives me to find out what others may (or may not) already know.
Thanks,
steve m - zone 4b - duluth, mn - rebloomer? what's that? I see frozen rhizomes and snow! :)
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 lmmunro <lmmunro@hotmail.com> wrote: Someone crossed an oldie, I think Lent Williamson(oldie) with 
Champagne Elegance(modern) and posted the pics on the photos; very 
interesting offspring; I would say they were a blend of both parents.
I think if you crossed two historics, you would only have a very 
small chance of duplicating hybridizers results; just because there 
are so many possibilities.
Its almost if your parents had more kids, would they look like you? 
Probably somewhat, but still at least a little different looking.
Still, I would like to see more people experimenting with oldie to 
modern cross, then cross the offspring together, and you would 
probably get some very modern iris with some very different patterns.
If only I weren't such a 'brown' thumb, I would do it myself,
Laetitia

--- In iris-talk@y..., "Steve Mahlberg" <s_j_mahlberg@y...> wrote:
> I was wondering if anyone has tried to recreate any of the "old 
time" 
> crosses that brought us any of the historics? Just to see if they 
> ended up with something or anything like the hybridizers "back 
then" 
> did?
> thanks,
> steve mahlberg - zone 4b - duluth,mn
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