AIS: HYB: Convention Guest Irises
- Subject: [iris] AIS: HYB: Convention Guest Irises
- From: C*@aol.com
- Date: Thu, 26 Oct 2006 11:25:58 EDT
- List-archive: <http://www.hort.net/lists/iris/> (Web Archive)
In a message dated 10/26/2006 8:42:28 AM Eastern Standard Time,
lmann@lock-net.com writes:
<<I naively thought that rhizomes were sent <mostly> so hybridizers could
learn how their cultivars perform in various climates and to make it
possible for judges and other AIS members to see what new cultivars look
like "live" and in comparison to one another all in one location.>>
Makes sense to me.
Certainly your naive presupposition is consistent with the oft heard chat
about the convention gardens being AIS' display and/or test gardens, as
distinct from the other chat to the effect that the gardens of AIS members' are the
AIS test/display gardens.
<<On another topic, conventions keep track of performance of all cultivars
that are grown, report back to the hybridizer on that performance, but
don't share that information with the rest of the iris community. I
would <love> to be able to beg/borrow/see a spreadsheet of those data!
Both from regional conventions and nationals
Wonder if anyone actually does anything with that information on any scale,
other than report back to the hybridizer? I think it should be stored for a
decade, then crunched until it squeals.
As to individuals receiving such reports after convention, the statistical
variables and interpretive cowpies should be intuitively obvious to the most
casual observer, but, even so, such data might well demonstrate some utility,
especially in raw form---- with a few broad generalizations appended if
reason absolutely demanded it, per e.g., "Second wettest April on record," or
"Two hard freezes six weeks before normative TB bloom," or "Everything in this
border obviously stunted," or "Pigs got into the garden."
After all, folks would want to pick and choose among the data germane to
their own preoccupations. I think people get tired of having other people
interpret and characterize situations for them, then tell them what is what. People
want to ponder and decide for themselves; it is part of the fun. The fact
that some cultivar died with astonishing speed in some garden could be of
enormous interest and importance to people for various reasons; moreover such a
performance does not mean the hybridizer has failed per se, or is a bad person,
or his/her reputation is henceforth toast.
But I do think it is likely that sometimes the results of such testing are
aberrant. One hybridizer, a sane man with a modest ego, told me that he was
absolutely stunned to hear that one of his best had done poorly in a convention
display since everywhere else it was thrifty to a quite remarkable degree.
He suspected a case of egregiously poor culture, and I am inclined to suspect
he is correct.
So, I ask, what might be the effect of your, or another hybridizer's, making
decisions impacted by the data arising from atypical performance in AIS
display gardens?
And, speaking of broad generalizations quite possibly specious data, as an
operative posture, would you be inclined to presume that a greater percentage
of cultivars overall perform below their personal best in AIS convention
gardens, at their personal best, or above their personal best?
Just curious.
Cordially,
Anner Whitehead
Richmond VA USA Zone 7--Where the osage oranges are thick on the ground, and
the woodsmoke in the chill air makes the neighborhood smell like a good VA
ham.
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