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Re: More on persimmons

Hi Nan,
Have you looked in the Andersen Horticultural Library's list of plants and
their sources? I don't have the book in front of me, but it is:
   ANDERSEN HORTICULTURAL LIBRARY'S SOURCE LIST OF PLANTS AND SEEDS.
Minnesota Landscape Arboretum; Univ. of Minn., Chanhassen, Minn. $34.95.
Good luck.
Elly

 
On Tue, 29 Apr 1997, Nan Sterman wrote:

> Dear Persimmon growers,
> 
> I have been searching the country for a Diosporys texana, the Texas
> persimmon.  The only nursery I've found with one and is willing to ship it
> is Forest Farm in Oregon.  Theirs, however is tiny -- in a 6" sleeve.  Do
> any of you know where i can get a larger one either in Southern California
> (where I live) or who will ship to California?
> 
> Thanks so much!
> 
> Nan
> 
> 
> 
> 
> >Hi Judy, and all,
> >Our garden in Berkeley, just above the city Rose Garden, is protected by
> >the red-tail hawks which nest just above UC Botanical Garden, and the
> >American Kestrals that seem to be nesting near Hilgard and Euclid avenues.
> >We watched a red-tail hawk settle on to our neighbor's redwood tree and
> >begin to dismember a squirrel, causing 12 stellar jays to appear from
> >somewhere for a piece of the action. The squirrels around are a lot more
> >careful now, so we hope our persimmons won't be raided by them. Racoons
> >are still terrible pests, and persimmon branches are brittle, but a wide
> >sheet of slippery metal around the trunk, or a circle of chicken wire
> >(which we use to protect the tree from deer, who like to strip bark away
> >and lick the sap) is helpful (doesn't beautify the garden though).
> >All the best,
> >Elly
> >
> >
> >On Mon, 28 Apr 1997, Judy Houck wrote:
> >
> >> Hi all,
> >> That is a truly amazing story!  In Berkeley, Calif.  this tree is very happy
> >> and tough.  It has wonderful orange fall color.  But, about as soon as I
> >> begin to enjoy the winter fruit, the squirrels and raccoons climb up, break
> >> branches and destroy the fruit (in Orinda, also).  We have a serious
> >> overpopulation of these beasts as they have no preditors.  We can't very
> >> well have mountain lions or wolves and apparently the dogs and cats we do
> >> have do not suffice.  In fact we have to protect the dogs from the raccoons.
> >> I guess wildlife balance is a problem to all gardeners.
> >> Judy Houck, Berkeley/Quincy, California, U.S.A
> >>
> >> At 10:34 AM 4/28/97 +0100, Alessandra Vinciguerra wrote:
> >> >Here persimmons normally come on their roots, and their toughness is
> >> >legendary. Two years ago I wanted to move five old, but short (perhaps 8
> >> >ft), plants that were growing on the edges of a small and overcrowded mound
> >> >of soil, 6 ft high and   planted with two old olives. So we start digging
> >> >around the persimmons and prepare a big root ball, 3 ft deep at least, wrap
> >> >it with mesh, make all the necessary preparation.  When we tried to pull out
> >> >the first plant, with the help of a craned truck, we heard a distinc crak
> >> >and realized that actually the trunk had broken at the intersection of the
> >> >roots, but this was _below_ the level of our supposed rootball. Further
> >> >digging investigations revealed that the trees had been, sometimes in the
> >> >past, covered with at least 3 ft of soil, meant to raise the height of the
> >> >hill. They had managed  to live with their root system buried  under all
> >> >this soil. Therefore, we  had carefully prepared a rootball around  the
> >> >trunks. This also explained the persimmon's  short height, as they were
> >> >buried for half of their real height. And, the buried trunks were perfect!
> >> >No signs of rot, or other sufference: the bark was compact, maybe just a
> >> >little paler than the average.
> >> >No one could remember when this had been done, but considering that our
> >> >oldest staff members' memories go back to 30 years, we calculated that the
> >> >persimmons had survived, and regularly cropped every season, for at least 31
> >> >years, half buried in the ground.
> >> >How I wish other plants could perform like this!
> >> >Did anybody mention that in the winter the bare branches, covered with the
> >> >round orange fruits, are one of the happiest sights in the garden? Plant the
> >> >persimmons where they can be reached by  late afternoon light.  It enhances
> >> >the color of the fruits.
> >> >
> >> >Ciao,
> >> >Alessandra
> >> >Alessandra Vinciguerra
> >> >American Academy in Rome
> >> >Via Masina,5
> >> >00153 Roma
> >> >Tel:0039\6\5846.444
> >> >library@librs6k.vatlib.it
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >
> >>
> >>
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