RE: fleece and palms
- Subject: RE: fleece and palms
- From: J* D*
- Date: Wed, 19 Dec 2001 09:59:18 -0800 (PST)
Regarding your Siberian cold wave, I was shocked to
see temperatures at Athens predicted to go to minus
1-2 Celsius! Horrible.
Alessandra, I would be interested to know what palm
species you currently have outdoors at La Mortella.
-Jason Dewees
San Francisco
--- "Vinciguerra, Alessandra"
<A.Vinciguerra@aarome.org> wrote:
> Hi Edward,
> to the best of my knowledge, the fleece we use only
> blocks a minimum of
> sunlight, perhaps 4%, (maybe a little more?), it is
> white and transparent
> like a veil. We don't use it thickly at all, only 1
> layer but for the most
> tender plants (Plumeria), that get two.
> Light requirement of palm trees are really variable
> and depend on their
> native habitat; some grow in the understorey of
> tropical forests, and
> require half or deep shade, some emerge above the
> canopy in that same
> environment and require a lot of light, the same
> goes for most of the
> temperate palms, or the tropical ones that grow on
> the shores, not to
> mention the mangrove palms (full light) or the
> creeping ones ("rattan",
> Calamus: shade) etc....
> :) I have been reading and researching a lot about
> palm trees recently,
> because we are building a new tropical palm house at
> the gardens La Mortella
> and we are in that lovely phase, when you dream
> about what to grow there.
> As for Phoenix and Butia, both genuses require full
> light. I think that the
> brown shade in the outer leaves of your plants is an
> effect of cold. I don't
> know how big they are, but consider that a mature
> Phoenix canariensis can
> get some cold, 0°c is not a problem. If this is the
> worst you get you could
> avoid the fleece and just close the outer leaves on
> the central shoot and
> tigh them with a rope., in other words protect the
> shoot (or cabbage,as we
> call it). Close them like a tulip bud.
> Colder and colder... last week's cold wave was
> said to arrive from
> Siberia, we expect another one tomorrow, from
> Groenland...one wonders, why
> don't they stay there? It snowed in Naples, the
> Vesuvius volcano was capped
> in white!
> All the best,
> Alessandra
>
>
>
>
> Alessandra Vinciguerra
> Superintendent of the Gardens
> American Academy in Rome
> Via Masina,5
> 00183 Roma Italy
> Tel. 39-6-5846444
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Ekmarsf@aol.com [E*@aol.com]
> Sent: Thursday, December 13, 2001 5:23 PM
> To: A.Vinciguerra@aarome.org
> Cc: medit-plants@ucdavis
> Subject: fleece
>
>
> Dear A, On the matter of fleece, how thick do you
> wrap it? I think I may
> use it too thickly - 8 or 9 ply on palms like
> Canariensis or Butia Capitata.
> How important is light to palm leaves, I wonder? I
> notice that the new
> leaves in the centre of the plant are bright green
> as they should be in
> April when the fleece comes off and they presumably
> have been without light
> all winter. Outer leaves are often brown tinged, but
> this could just be cold
> affected.
> Currently expecting minus 2 C tonight.
> Edward Faridany
> East Sussex, England
>
>
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