Re: planting under Calif. live oak

 Thanks to Sean and everyone for the deep, dry shade ideas -- always a
tricky garden problem!  I’d like to add a few:

Salad Burnet (Poterium sang.) -- besides being tasty, it makes a lovely,
ferny groundcover.  It’s a perennial, and spreads by seed, but not too much.

Geranium macrorhizzum -- in sun it needs water, but not in shade.

Manzanita sp. -- I always thought of these as full-sun plants, until I saw
a green-leaved species growing as the dominant understory in mature, dense
Ponderosa pine forest (i.e. full shade all day).  I collected samples and
will try them out under my Sweet Gum!

Does anyone know a source for the Pericallis cuneata, aka Senecio hybridus
/ cuneata Sean mentioned?  It sounds like just what I need to bring color
to that area.  Chiltern’s has Senecio elegans and T&M has Senecio
polypodon, which sound like  they MIGHT be similar-- anyone know if they’d
do OK in dry shade? 

Lastly, I like to echo Sean’s praise for Symphoricarpos.  In shade it has a
lovely, open growth habit that is startlingly beautiful.

Back to lurking-and-learning mode :-).

-- Susannah
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