Re: Re: What exactly is a mediterranean climate anyway?

I will be very interested to follow this thread with anyone who wants too. My own situation at present is that we are experiencing an extremely mild summer with some good rainfalls. BUT we are also experiencing a very extreme weather event, as are others on Victoria, Queensland, New South Wales - not to mention the USa, Europe and UK. Climate Change is happening but now we need to track the fine details and extremes.  cheers, Trevor N.

On Fri 14/01/11 5:59 PM , Gordon Walker grwalker@club-internet.fr sent:
On 19/06/2010 07:38, Cali Doxiadis wrote:
I agree with Trevor. The most general definition of "wet winter dry summer" is enough.
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Sent: Friday, June 18, 2010 5:57 AM
Subject: Re: What exactly is a mediterranean climate anyway?

I wouldn't like to see 'us' get too tied up in this matter of defining things more tightly. Alpine gardeners and rock gardeners have much the same problems: are we talking about gardens over 3000 ft or 4000ft; what about the Moroccan Atlas, the Altai Mtns etc. It woiuld be counter productive if we got tied up in knots as some old rose enthusiasts have right down to arguing about HM petals each rose should have to be 'correct''. The first thing we should do is enjoy what we do and be confident to work in the broad parameters while at the same time undertsnading out our own settings and conditions. It is all a fun adventure.

 

cheers

 

Trevor N.



On Fri 18/06/10 8:38 AM , "Otter Point" otterpt@shaw.ca sent:

If Mediterranean climate is defined as climatic condition in which the
summers are normally dry, warm to hot and sunny and winters are mild
with the maximum rainfall taking place during this time of the year this
does not say that temperatures are warm/hot enough to ripen dates.

Is there a distinction between a 'hot' Mediterranean climate and a
'warm' Mediterranean climate?

I live on the central east coast of Vancouver Island which has
relatively mild weather with most precipitation in the winter and long,
dry summers. It is known as a Mediterranean climate.

Diane Pertson
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From: "Michael Mace" <mikemace@att.net>
To: "'Medit-Plants'" <medit-plants@ucdavis.edu>
Sent: Thursday, June 17, 2010 2:03 PM
Subject: RE: What exactly is a mediterranean climate anyway?


>I just wanted to thank everybody for their replies and thoughts on the
> definition of a Mediterranean climate. I think the examples we're
> talking
> about reinforce the idea that the definition of "mediterranean" is
> very
> flexible. As Pamela pointed out, central Spain has a very different
> climate, but every official "mediterranean" climate map I've seen
> includes
> it. But if central Spain is mediterranean, it's hard to argue that
> central
> Oregon isn't.
>
> And then there are the date palms, which in California grow best in
> areas
> that are officially classified as (non-mediterranean) low desert.
>
> I'd like to see us eventually develop a standard classification of
> various
> mediterranean climates that would work around the world. That would
> help us
> quickly determine what plants are likely to have a chance in our own
> climates.
>
> Mike
> San Jose, CA
>

I live near Narbonne in France. The climate is mediterranaen but too cool to grow dates.
I believe the figure of merit is the number of degree-days above 22Â Celsius. How many I cannot remember but Narbonne does not have enough by a wide margin!

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