Re: dry shade/clivia
- To: "Sean A. O'Hara"
- Subject: Re: dry shade/clivia
- From: W* B*
- Date: Thu, 1 Jun 2000 12:57:18 -0700 (PDT)
Hi Angela,
Sean has a very good point, about Berkeley, Calif. dry shade not being
so difficult to deal with because of our summer fogs. Marjorie Schmidt's
book GROWING CALIFORNIA NATIVE PLANTS has a list of plants for dry
shade. She gardened in Saratoga, CA, the mountains of northern california
and in Berkeley. There is also a good little book GARDENING IN AND
AROUND OAKS, published by the Oak Foundation with an address in Oakland,
which I don't have at hand. It would be helpful too.
Elly Bade
On Thu, 1 Jun 2000, Sean A. O'Hara wrote:
> Angela -
>
> There are indeed many very carefree, drought tolerant shade plants that are
> common in the Bay Area, either in nurseries and garden centers or from
> shared plants. Nan suhhested Berkeley Hort's shade list - I actually take
> issue with many of the plants listed. It seems to be that the reference to
> 'dry shade' can be a relative one (how dry is 'dry'?). I recently created
> a list on the mediterranean climate gardening site:
> http://www.support.net/Medit-Plants/plants/shade.dry.html
> that I think are more to be trusted, and more capable of tolerating really
> dry shade. If anyone has other species they feel would be good additions,
> or if they'd like to challenge those listed, please let me know.
>
> In Berkeley, often cooler in the summer due to the influences of fog and
> cool Golden Gate air, dry shade is a more moderate environment. Dry shade
> in San Jose or Walnut Creek is more challenging.
>
> If you can tell me more about this site, perhaps what the address is, I
> might be able to drive by and give you more precise suggestions for what to
> plant.
>
> Regards,
> Sean O.
>
> At 01:38 PM 5/31/00 -0700, LEE,ANGELA IUE-CHIH wrote:
> >Hi folks,
> >
> >I've got a two part question regarding dry shade plants and clivias.
> >
> >I've been asked to suggest some plants for a very shady strip running
> >along the side of my parent's house in Berkeley (i.e. mid 20's C in the
> >summer and single digit temperatures in the winter) . My parents don't
> >particularly care what they put in there as long as they don't have to
> >put in much care once the plants are established. I am trying to persuade
> >them to at least put
> >in something that will tolerate drought if (ok, when) another drought hits
> >california. Any recommendations for dry shade plants from groundcover to
> >3ft tall would be most welcome. The plants would also have to be readily
> >available at any nearby nursery or such supermarket type places like Home
> >Depot. The garden is more a chore than pleasure for my parents and I
> >would like to convince them that drought tolerant non-invasive plants are
> >as easy to obtain and grow as a more weedy or more water needy plant.
> >
> >I noticed on the medit-plant web site that clivia miniata is a suggested
> >plant for dry shade. I have always associated this plant with rather
> >moist situations. How shady and how dry? will they flower in heavy
> >shade? Do they like water but can tolerate occasional drought or will
> >they do fine during a prolonged period of drought? would this plant be a
> >good choice for the conditions I've described above?
> >
> >Thanks in advance for any suggestions
> >Angela Lee
>
>
> Sean A. O'Hara sean.ohara@groupmail.com
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