Re: Wonga-wonga Vine Questions


 
Tony & Moira Ryan, Wainuiomata, New Zealand
Climate ( US Zone 9). Annual averages:-
Minimum -2°C; Maximum 28°C Rainfall 2000mm
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Dear Carol,
 
I sympathize with you about having your vine cut down.  I had a young man helping me do some weeding last week - I told him, "don't pull out the white or pink flowered plants  - there are only two weeds there - this one and that" - I went in the house for a brief time and came back out and he had pulled out my Salvia argentea and my pink Phlomis tuberosa and crumpled them up and put them in the weed pile in the wheelbarrow.  This was their third year in the ground and they were both flowering and just huge and looking so good.  I was just sick when I came out and saw what he did.  My DH said I gave the young man too much information - that I know plants and he doesn't - so now I am watching over him like a hawk.
 
Linda
This is a problem I have faced a few times in recent years, being no longer able to do much of the work in my own garden. It seems a curious thing to those who are long-term gardeners, but so many people without a gardening  connection simply do not seem to _see_ individual plants in a massed planting. If asked to weed they do not, as we would, actually seem to focus on the plant they are pulling, but simply grab up mixed handfuls which will all too often include your most precious treasures, and when you protest at the carnage seem quite bewildered about what is bugging you. I have found with some of them a careful demo of handling individual plants and deciding whether they should go or stay soon works, but  others  can apparently take it in and then go back and commit the same mayhem as before. I had one willing and really charming old bloke for nearly a year who had obviously not gardened until he retired and after a while I realised he was simply incapable of anything but clean weeding and for the last part of our acquaitance I had him just clearing used veg beds,  weeding paths,  edging beds and sweeping up weeds, which he did with great efficiency. Otherwise I should not I think have had any plants left in my borders!
 
What I have also noticed is that women catch on MUCH quicker than men and I am now really lucky to have got me a female helper who was almost untrained but willing and who has over a very few months become really skilled so that I can now trust her to weed any bed correctly even if she does not have any preliminary coaching from me..
 
Anyway, I just purchased two Pandorea vines last week for my pergola near my water tank - I have never seen this vine or grown it before but they looked so attractive at the nursery, I went ahead and got them.  I thought the plant label said Pandorea jasminoides - so I am not sure they are the same as what you have.  From Sean's description, I think not, as my flowers seem larger and do not droop but stay horizontal.   One has pure white tubular flowers and the other has white flowers with magenta colored throats in the center of the tube.  My pergola has pressure treated wood that is a reddish brown color (I left it natureal) and I thought the dark green leaves and white flowers would look good on it.  They are about 4 foot tall and have a few blooms on them and seem to already be putting on more blossoms.  Since it so hot here during the day I expected them to wilt after planting but they seem to be doing just fine.  I did have hardenbergia there but it froze to the ground this past winter and I didn't like the look of that vine in that location, so I took the hardenbergia out.  I got the Pandorea at Mezquite Nursery in Strathmore which is about a 20 miles from where I live in Central California.  Here is their website: http://mezquitenursery.com/   I think they have another nursery in southern California too - not sure if you could arrange for them to be shipped by them or something.  I think they are growers and supply other nurseries too.
 
These are two different species. Pandorea jasminoides is the Bower of beauty  and P pandorana the Wonga wonga vine. Both are native to Australia, but while P.pandorana takes only the lightest of frosts, P jasminoides is able to stand a good deal more cold and is in my opinion the more beautiful and showy species, though both are worth growing wnere the climate is mild enough as while jasminoides comes only in white or pink, pandorana not only has these two colours but also a beautiful golden form.
 
I don't think I ever pruned a wonga vine, however the instructions in a local book mention they _can_ be cut with shears, so they can't be very fussy. Anyway in my experience most Bignoniaceae are extremely vigorous and I suspect hard to kill, so I would expect Carol that your one which has been hard treated will come back more vigorous than ever. It has at least still got _some_ growth on it, even if only stems, but also a large vigorous root system to encourage it. I would suggest though you keep a close watch on it and don't let it suffer any further stress by getting dry until it is well re-established.
 
Moira


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