Re: Re :commelina tuberosa
- To: c*@wanadoo.fr
- Subject: Re: Re :commelina tuberosa
- From: G* W*
- Date: Fri, 16 Mar 2001 19:43:41 +0000
- References: <3ab2506e3b55d643@mahonia.wanadoo.fr> (added by mahonia.wanadoo.fr)
GUIRAUD Chantal wrote:
>
> Hi Gordon
> I live in France too but just north of Paris. Fairly soon I'll move to
> Montpellier and made some sowings for my future garden. I'm running the seed
> exchange in the SNHF (societe nationale d'horticulture de france) and last
> year I 've got Coronilla valentina ssp. glauca seeds. They germinated easily
> and I'm glad to see I've made a good choice, I didn't know it was fragant.
> You're mentioning forsythia in your message as an ugly plant and I agree
> with you ; I planted a forsythia suspensa 2 years ago and it's a better
> choice, with nicer foliage, I'll move it with me and hope it'll recover.
> I've sown commelina tuberosa a long time ago and I can tell you this plant
> is very easy. Now, it selfseeds freely so I don't care about it, it's in
> full sun (but you can imagine the sun in Paris is not very agressive) and
> grows in a well drained bed but I don't think it will like a dry position.
> Perhaps somebody else grows it in a dry climate?
> Is there a difference between commelina tuberosa and commelina coelestis or
> are they the same plant?
> Gordon, where do you live ? Perhaps we'll be neighbours?
> Chantal, Ermenonville
> zone 7 (zone 8 this winter)
> ----------
> >De : Gordon Walker <grwalker@club-internet.fr>
> >À : "medit-plants@ucdavis.edu" <medit-plants@ucdavis.edu>
> >Objet : Re:Colour of Spring Bloom and favorite fragrant plants
> >Date : Jeu 15 mars 2001 19:56
> >
>
> >
> >I know that the fragrant plant thread was dropped quite some time ago
> >but
> >the winter-early spring performance of Coronilla valentina has impressed
> >me again this year and I want to stand up for the often downrated
> >yellow; it all depends on the shade! For those who do not know this
> >evergreen shrub in
> >the Leguminosae it is about four or five feet tall with pretty glaucous
> >leaves and gradually covers itself from the end of January to about the
> >end of March with lemon yellow, exquisitely perfumed flowers. I believe
> >it is native to the northern mediterranean part of southern France where
> >I live. I have seen wild speciments near the Canal du Midi which threads
> >through this region.
> >One thing that still astonishes me is its rarity in local gardens where
> >the standard shrub for providing a masss of yellow in early spring is
> >the Forsythia which is better suited to northern Europe, is scentless
> >and is ugly out of flower.
> >On a completly different tack I have just germinated some seed of
> >Commelina tuberosa(Coelestis Group) which I got through the RHS
> >distribution of surplus seed. I have read that is suitable for
> >mediterranean climates but I have no idea about the necessary
> >conditions( sun, shade, moisture etc.). Does anyone have experience with
> >this plant?
> >--
> >--
> >Gordon Walker
> >France
> >
Hello Chantal
Nice to hear from you. The SNHF seed exchange sounds very interesting.
How does it operate?
I live in St. Marcel sur Aude, not far from Narbonne, so I think we will
be about one hour away on the autoroute. You should be close to the
Philippi nursery in Mèze if you need a good source of plants suitable
for the climate.
As far as the meaning of the phrase "Coelestis group" I have no idea, it
is just the way the RHS seed packet was labeled. I have also some
seedlings of Commelina dianthifolia about which I have no information at
all. Perhaps I will plant them in a semi-shaded place in the garden, if
I can find one!
--
Gordon Walker
France