oleander

Dear Linda,
Oleander was a great shrub row at my place growing oranges in Lindsay, close to your place. But, oleander
is prone to aphids.  Oleander leaves, flowers, and prunings are poisonous. Now, Oleander is prone to leaf scorch from Southern California which will kill the plants.

Kathleen
now at the north end of California's Great Valley, zone 9


-----Original Message-----
From: Linda Starr <mtnstar@ocsnet.net>
Sent: Mar 22, 2005 5:16 PM
To: david feix <davidfeix@yahoo.com>, medit-plants@ucdavis.edu
Subject: Re: Correction to Previous: Elaeagnus multflora

Dear David,

Yes, I am at about 1000 foot elevation, zone 9 - we got a week straight of 
25 degrees this past winter but for a short duration and it warmed up during 
the day.  They do grow oranges in our valley and I have a small lemon and 
orange tree in my yard.

I really don't like oleander (but that would be a good choice - there is one 
in town that is as big as a tree - maybe I should reconsider - it certainly 
would probably be less expensive to plant a long row of oleander than some 
exotic plant - a long row of white oleander might look nice).  I planted 
three dodonaea purpurea in my front yard this past month but they are closer 
to the house which will protect them some.  The section I want the screen is 
at the lower slope and may get a bit more frost.  I might try another 
variety of elaeagnus if I can't get the multiflora - but I thought it was 
worth a try since part of my overall plan is to incorporate edible fruits 
and bird friendly habitat in my gardens.  I am going to have to check around 
and see if there are any mature elaeagnus around here to see how they look 
and to check out the location they are planted.

I found out about the multiflora from the California Rare Fruit Grower's web 
site - I have a message out to their web site and several nurseries - so 
perhaps I will yet be able to find the multiflora - and perhaps I will just 
get a few of them and put them somewhere else in my gardens since they 
sounded so interesting and little known in the United States.  Thank you so 
much for your input - you have got me thinking about some alternatives - 
which is good.  My problem is that I want something 10 feet tall tomorrow - 
so I may have to consider something more readily available instead of 
getting some whips that will take 10 years to get to size.

Linda Starr
Springville Gardens


----- Original Message ----- 
From: "david feix" <davidfeix@yahoo.com>
To: <mtnstar@ocsnet.net>; <medit-plants@ucdavis.edu>
Sent: Tuesday, March 22, 2005 1:23 PM
Subject: Re: Correction to Previous: Elaeagnus multflora


> Linda,
> Correct me if I am wrong, but you are in the Sierra
> Nevada foothills, aren't you?  It might be too common
> or obvious a choice, but Oleander certainly is fast
> growing and bullet proof as to heat and drought.
> Dodonaea viscosa 'Purpurea' is another fast, easy
> grower for such conditions, but may suffer some frost
> damage in bad winters.  Toyon, Heteromeles arbutifolia
> is not as fast, but also a very good screen
> shrub/small tree with year round interest. Arbutus
> unedo might also work well for you, but would
> appreciate more summer water the first few years to
> get it established.
>
> I don't have any experience with the Eleagnus
> multiflora you mention, but wonder if it really is all
> that drought tolerant coming from summer rainfall
> Japan and China?  Only E. pungens cultivars or E. x
> ebbingei are much used here in the San Francisco Bay
> Area, and even these are kind of an old fashioned
> 1950's/60's era plant not much used anymore.  I tend
> to associate them with partial shade/morning sun
> situations rather than full sun, but this is just how
> I most often see them used locally.
>
>
>
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