Re: plants under pines
- Subject: Re: plants under pines
- From: J* D*
- Date: Tue, 13 Nov 2001 12:52:10 -0800 (PST)
Toyon factoid that intrigues me:
Heteromeles arbutifolia is native in California and
Baja California's mediterranean climate zone, and then
down in the southernmost mountain range of Baja, above
Cabo San Lucas and La Paz, where the rainy season is
distinctly summer.
Another intriguing thing about Toyon is that it shows
the island effect in fruit size and even leaf
serration: Guadalupe and Channel Islands strains have
(or had, where extinct) larger fruit and smoother
leaf-edges, plus larger dimensions overall.
As for its adaptability to growing beneath Pinus
radiata, I think I've seen it in habitat growing
underneath Monterey Pines, and judging from its
ability to survive under Eucalyptus globulus, it's at
least worth a try, barring deer infestation.
Cheers,
Jason Dewees
San Francisco
--- Tony & Moira Ryan <theryans@xtra.co.nz> wrote:
> steve french wrote:
> >
> > Dear List,
> >
> > I have recently moved to a new house here in
> Sebastopol, California. Along
> > one property line there is a row of tall Monterey
> Pines, Pinus radiata. I
> > would like to plant a row of large shrubs near the
> base of the pines as a
> > visual screen of my neighbors driveway and
> parking.
> >
> > I was thinking of planting Toyon, Heteromeles
> arbutifolia, but I'm
> > wondering how they would do under the drip line of
> tall Pines. There is
> > afternoon sun, just a layer of pine needles and
> the morning shade of the
> > trees.
> >
> > Does anyone have experience of growing plants
> under pines?
> >
> Steve
> As these plants are both native to the area, I
> suppose they might manage
> to coexist, but in my experience very little grows
> happily under
> established Pinus radiata. I think conifers in
> general take an awful lot
> of light, moisture and food which would prevent
> almost any other sort of
> plant establishing itself inside their zone of
> influence, particularly
> once the trees are already grown.
>
> However doubtless locals will be able to give you
> more definite
> information.
>
> Moira
> --
> Tony & Moira Ryan <theryans@xtra.co.nz>
> Wainuiomata, New Zealand, SW Pacific. 12 hours ahead
> of Greenwich Time
>
>
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