Re: Starting from seed


In a message dated 8/5/01 11:37:11 PM Eastern Daylight Time, 
ldnewton2@home.com writes:

<< Obviously, starting perennials from seed will be more difficult than I had 
originally thought, because I'm not into broadcasting seeds.
  >>

Hi Larry,

Some advice from this list is probably overwhelming you.  All perennials are 
not broadcast.  Duncan's post is another very good one.  You may want to work 
your way up to Noman Deno (seed guru of gardeners).  In fact Deno's books are 
writen the way he likes with little editing so are sometimes hard to consult.

Maybe if you used this approach:  decide which perennials you want to grow 
and then research them one at a time.  Be prepared to fail with with at least 
half of them and be happy with the successes.

They reasons for growing from seed as I see it are you can have a great many 
plants for a small price, you can have a plant not available easily or 
cheaply from a store or catalog, or you can become a seed freak which is not 
at all uncommon.  If you can find what you want at a garden center and it is 
a reasonable price, there is little reason to do seeds.

Next, on germination of many kinds of perennials,  common sense will tell 
that these plants do not all come from the same geographic location.  Some 
are not even perennial but grown in the perennial borders as they look best 
there.  You must mimic in some way what mother nature does to germinate the 
seed.  That is why the warm and cool germinators are discussed, why 
stratification is done.  I belonged to a daylily group for a while and 
remember the seed rule as being exactly 28 days in the fridge and then to 
around 70 degrees in light.   Growing perennials from seed is not this 
demanding.   I have a white flowered iris pseudocorus which for reasons 
entirely unclear to me has produced from last year's seed, one million plants 
which are being constantly pulled and composted.

The method of germination is narrowly confined to the family, genus and 
species.  It can vary within even the species so decide what you want to grow 
and search around to find what that seed needs.  What I am try to say is that 
there is no one answer.  Some pop right out of the ground and are very 
obliging, live forever.  Others need some skill (really patience) and 
surprise you when you least expect it.  Also, the information on commercial 
seed packages is a bit off, after all a sale is wanted.

You mentioned library and if you have one with a large garden section, you 
will find Christopher Lloyd/Graham Rice on seeds.  This book gives method and 
discussion on several pages, confidence.

I have somed paeonia seedlings that I have been planting for ten years.  The 
seed is from a species individual and have never germinated anywhere I could 
find them until last summer.  Now I have three small plants so you can see 
some are a pain in the .................

You should probably plant your seeds in a frame or an eight inch shallow pot, 
cover with grit and have a look every other day.  You also mentioned Midwest. 
 In the hot months many seeds (except weeds) do not germinate well.  You get 
better germination in the fall and spring.  A very small hardy plant will 
need protection over the winter. 

The main thing is that you keep going and do not let any seed problems put 
you off trying again.  All of us have seed failures and all of us are always 
looking for the secret of some plant.

Claire Peplowski
NYS z4 

 

 

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