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RE: Help with Lupines

Hi Mark!

Your soil with pH 6.5 is slightly ACID!!!. pH 7 is neutral, and all above 7
is alkaline. Other than acid soil, lupines need deep, rich fresh soil.

Jose
almand@arrakis.es
Northern Spain, zone 9, humid oceanic climate
 

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> De: Mark Speakman <markspkn@iol.ie>
> A: perennials@mallorn.com
> Asunto: Re: Help with Lupines
> Fecha: lunes 11 de agosto de 1997 21:15
> 
> My soil is alkaline, 6.5, and my Lupins thrive. Ward-Lock Gardening
Encycl.
> insist they hate alkaline soils. Reader's Digest Creative Gardening
> recommend them for nuetral to acid soils only, but there you are !
Suspect
> that they dislike getting dried out .... here in the west of Ireland we
> have continual, if not continuous ! rain. As most acid soil is moisture
> retentive, and tends to occur in high rainfall areas, could this be the
> connection ?
> Do persist ... I adore the way lupins positively glow in the twilight ...

> something to do with the colours perhaps ?
> Mark
> 
> ----------
> > From: Donna Wilson <donnaw@axionet.com>
> > To: perennials@mallorn.com
> > Subject: Re: Help with Lupines
> > Date: 10 August 1997 23:04
> > 
> > Not an expert by any means.  Grown lupins for 3 years.  The book
(looking
> at
> > Damrosch's Garden Primer which was handy) says they like moist acidic
> rich
> > soil with lots of organic matter. 
> > In my experience you can cheat on the richness of the soil but not the
> > acidic part or the moisture.  And mine -- Russel hybrids -- do way
better
> in
> > part shade than full mid-day sun.  I've had plants that didn't flower
> very
> > well -- if at all -- the first year but come back in full glory in year
> two.
> > They also don't last very long here but self sow like crazy.  Try at
> least
> > once more!  They are wonderful.  Good luck.  Regards, Donna. (Zone 5+) 
 
>  
> > 
> > At 10:27 AM 10 08 97 -0500, you wrote:
> > >So the motto is never give up until you've killed something 3 times?
> > >Hmmmm . . . .I'm on my last chance with my Russell Hybrid Lupines
> > >(Lupinus Polyphyllus).
> > >
> > >I planted them last fall and they made it through a mild (for our
area)
> > >winter just fine.  The plants came up well in the spring - better than
> > >any other attempts thus far.  They are in 3/4 Sun, in our standard
> > >(mostly clay) soil with mulch added yearly and on the side of a slight
> > >slope that drains well.  I got ONE flower in June and the plants
> > >shriveled and browned away . . . . en masse.
> > >
> > >Is this one of those flowers I will simply be unable to grow?  Thanks
in
> > >advance for any help you can give me.
> > >
> > >Lena
> > >Lena36@juno.com
> > >Zone 5 (Southeastern Wisconsin - 20 miles from Lake Michigan)
> > >
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