Re: spring and the robins

Hey, I'm not trying to depress anyone, I'm just pointing out that the
presence of robins is not necessarily a good indicator that spring is here.
I've seen robins in North Bay in winter once or twice and that's a lot
colder than either Toronto or Chicago.  That's why I said that spring was
definately coming early.   Now swallows, that's another matter!  
Toronto weather can be a little freaky at times.  I remember having had
roses still in bloom in December a couple of years and other times by early
December there has been 2 feet of snow on the lawn.  Makes for interesting
gardening since some years you get zone 6, some years zone 4.  This year
has definitely been a one zone or better warmer winter up here north of the
city.  

Bob Campbell
USDA 4 (normally).
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