Re: thugs and stuff

Just have to chime in....I have found that most shrubs that get bark on the stems or hard wood (non green wood) will not react to roundup...as long as you don't spray the leaves...hit the leaves and boom....dead or way sick,
Have had some sucess w/ a propane burner....hit the green plants in the shrub just long enough to wilt the tender stuff...wait a week do it again....so on til all the stuff in the foot print of the strub stops sprouting....it does cause some damage but if careful the shrub survives....I have never lost a hard wood or barked plant if I was really careful an didn't over do it....go slow....burn just long enough to wilt.
Also killed white flys in the greenhouse by just waving the flame under the infested leaves just long enough to crack the flys but not long enough to wilt the leaves....this VERY satisfying as 100s drop per pass...hehe.......worked really good on bottle gourds and lufa sponge (sp)

Ddier 'Dee' Maujean
Zone Eight
Eugene, Oregon USA
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----- Original Message ----- From: "Christopher P. Lindsey" <lindsey@mallorn.com>
To: <perennials@hort.net>
Sent: Tuesday, June 07, 2005 10:19 PM
Subject: Re: thugs


If you hear that s. Wisconsin has been swallowed up by goutweed, I'm to
blame.

Barb, have you been down here to East Central Illinois sowing goutweed
seeds?  I can't get rid of it in my yard either.  :(

It seems that every few years I get enough that I'm inspired to totally
dig up a bed, turn all of the soil, get rid of all of the roots that I
find, and then replant all of the perennials.

The people who built this house originally (circa 1939) put in huge beds
of nothing but Aegopodium.  When I bought the house in 1997 the first
thing I did was go out with a turning fork and remove as much as I could
find.

The problem is always the plants that are embedded in the center of
suckering shrubs.  They eventually spread out and the problem starts
all over again.

Maybe the spraying with milk bottle shields will help; I don't have the
time or patience to paint the leaves!  My Mom did that once and it took
about a half dozen painting sessions to elminate a small bunch.

Chris

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