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Re: more thugs
perennials@hort.net
  • Subject: Re: more thugs
  • From: "* <k*@comcast.net>
  • Date: Sun, 19 Jun 2011 10:03:46 -0500
The only one of those I have is the Corydalis, Don, and as I said, it's not really that much of a problem for me.
Another self-seeder is the sweet autumn clematis. I had it for many years before I started spotting seedlings popping up here and there. If I think of it I pop 'em out, pot 'em up, and put them in the nursery til they're big enough to sell, which doesn't take that long.
I mention this clematis, C. terniflora, because it's a thug (as you titled your response) all on it's own without spreading by seed or runners. I originally planted them so they'd grow on my north boundary 4 ft chain link fence as I wanted that unsightly fence covered. But a few years later I had some issues with that neighbor not liking my cats so I installed a privcy fence there. The SAC does manage to go over the fence and top off their shrubs, but much of it also leans to my side covering my lower plants so I'm always hacking at it. I'm tempted to take the two of them out but I'm scared to look at the rootball of a 20 year old vine that grows something like 30 feet in a season. 

Kitty
neIN, Zone 5
----- Original Message ----- From: "Don Martinson" <llmen@wi.rr.com> 
To: <perennials@hort.net>
Sent: Saturday, June 18, 2011 4:45 PM
Subject: Re: more thugs



Here's a link to a few of my "thugs".

http://tinyurl.com/67p3drd

Corydalis lutea - this one's not so bad and blooms from spring 'til fall,
Easy to remove.  My Corydalis ex dufu temple should do as well!
Saruma henryi -Pretty in the spring, but is beginning to seed around just a 
bit too much - again, pretty easy to remove extra plants.
Chelidonium majus - a Stylophorum relative that seeds just about everywhere. 
"Howard Johnson's Orange" colored sap.

Pinellia pedatisecta - whoever thought an aroid could be so prolific?
Leaves very tropical looking - very much like Sauromatum (or Typhonium,
depending upon whom you believe) (voodoo lily)
One of the so-called "Green Dragons".  Seeds have 150% germination rate!
Aristolochia clematitis - thought it was kinda neat looking when it was just a small patch, until it started taking over the whole side of the garden via 
runners.
Lamiastrum galeobdolon - What was I thinking? Guess I saw it in a friend's 
yard growing where nothing else would and with two dogs the size of small
horses to keep it trampled down


On 6/18/11 9:20 AM, "Kitty" <kmrsy@comcast.net> wrote:
Corydalis lutea is a jumper. Same friend gave me that years ago and it does 
end up all over, but some  of those places it selected were better than I
might have chosen myself.  It seeded into a rock border and now cascades
over the edge; very pretty.
Celandine Poppy, Stylophorum diphyllum, is another jumper. Some people think it's weedy; I think it's sweet. But only so far; I don't want it everywhere. 
They're easy enought o take out where you don't want them.
A few that have sent out volunteers in recent years that surprised me were Lamium which jumped to the other side of the back yard, backyard Mertensia 
that showed up in front of the house, and a Japanese Painted Fern that
showed up in a path 20 ft from my planting.

Anyone have other jumpers of interest?



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