Re: Tree Peony & flattery
- To:
- Subject: Re: Tree Peony & flattery
- From: M* T*
- Date: Tue, 8 Jun 1999 23:55:04 -0400
Ha, Gene! You have no idea how many of your words of wisdom on various
plants I have squirreled away for future reference and I bet I'm not the
only one who does this:-)
You - and Bill - are right...I wasn't being clear in what I said...thinking
of faster propagation as opposed to cuttings, which I understand are very
slow and pretty "iffy".....should have made clear the difference between
vegetative propagation and seed propagation...thanks to both you and Bill
for making up my shortfall here!
Marge Talt, zone 7 Maryland
mtalt@clark.net
Editor: Gardening in Shade
current article: Building A Raised Bed Garden
http://suite101.com/welcome.cfm/222
All garden topics welcome page:
http://www.suite101.com/welcome.cfm/3425#top5
----------
> From: GeneBush <genebush@otherside.com>
> Date: Tuesday, June 08, 1999 9:37 AM
>
> Hello Marge,
> Now my words come back to haunt me.... never thought of some one taking
> the time to save something I once said and quoting me later. Thanks for
the
> flattery.
> Tree peony are grafted for more than one reason. One, it does cut the
time
> in production, but you also have one hey of a large percentage of grafts
> that do not take and die. (Another reason to purchase two year old grafts
> minimum). Two, it is the only way you can have lots of plants all with
> exactly the same blooms and foliage. Seeds do produce variations... Mom
> Nature set things up that way.
> Gene Bush Southern Indiana Zone 6a Munchkin Nursery
> around the woods - around the world
> genebush@otherside.com http://www.munchkinnursery.com
>
> ----------
> > From: Marge Talt <mtalt@clark.net>
> > Subject: Re: Tree Peony
> > Date: Tuesday, June 08, 1999 3:40 AM
> >
> > Well, I looked in my stash of posts and found that a couple of years
ago,
> > Gene Bush replied to someone on some list who was asking about growing
> tree
> > peonies from seed. I have not asked him if I can quote his post, but
> feel
> > pretty sure he won't mind....if he does, he can come whip me with a wet
> > noodle:-)
> >
> > Gene said:
> >
> > "You can plant the seeds
> > of your tree peony after they mature. It helps if you do not allow them
> > to dry out so plant them someplace in pots and place in a shaded
> > coldframe. Allow to overwinter and they should germinate next spring.
> > Expect a wait of around 4 years before you see the first bloom. The new
> > plants will not be exactly like the mother plant."
> >
> > Seems to me I read recently - cannot remember where - that tree peonies
> > were often grafted onto herbaceous peony rootstocks for faster
> propagation,
> > but that was the only reason - and that it, if I remember correctly,
was
> > not best practice because of possible longevity problems...now, where
on
> > earth did I see this??
> >
> > I should think, that even so, the seed would be a tree peony of some
> kind
> > as that is what the flower is...unless, of course, the herbaceous
> > understock has taken over and is what is producing the flowers..
> >
> > Marge Talt, zone 7 Maryland
> > mtalt@clark.net
> > Editor: Gardening in Shade
> > current article: Building A Raised Bed Garden
> > http://suite101.com/welcome.cfm/222
> > All garden topics welcome page:
> > http://www.suite101.com/welcome.cfm/3425#top5
> >
> > ----------
> > > From: jaime <jknoble@warwick.net>
> > > Date: Monday, June 07, 1999 5:30 PM
> > >
> > > > My mother's tree peony flowered this year and is now setting
> > > > seed. She wants to know if she should sow the seed as soon as
> > > > they are ripe or would it be better to save them and sow them
> > > > next spring. Do they need any special conditions to germinate?
> > > > Thanks a lot.
> > > >
> > > > Louise English, southern England
> > >
> > > Louise, tree peonies are grafted so I'm not sure what would come
> > > from the seed. It could be interesting to try, but I'll wager
> > > the result would be a herbaceous peony rather than a tree peony.
> > >
> > > Jaime
> > > jknoble@warwick.net
> > > NW NJ zone 6/5
> > > "By doing just a little every day, I can gradually let the task
> > > completely overwhelm me." Ashleigh Brilliant
> > >
> > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------
> > > To sign-off this list, send email to majordomo@mallorn.com with the
> > > message text UNSUBSCRIBE PERENNIALS
> >
> > ---------------------------------------------------------------------
> > To sign-off this list, send email to majordomo@mallorn.com with the
> > message text UNSUBSCRIBE PERENNIALS
>
> ---------------------------------------------------------------------
> To sign-off this list, send email to majordomo@mallorn.com with the
> message text UNSUBSCRIBE PERENNIALS
---------------------------------------------------------------------
To sign-off this list, send email to majordomo@mallorn.com with the
message text UNSUBSCRIBE PERENNIALS