Re: Re[2]: Tree Peony/ Herbaceous & Tree


Hello Karen,
	I think Kristil Walek from Gardens North answered much of this for you.
Thanks Kristil for the information on tree peony seed. I was going to write
you in private and ask some questions you answered. I have tree peony seed
from a friend in Sweden sent too late to plant last year and was saving it
to sow soon. 
	Karen sometime out gardening terms differ. I assume when you speak of "dry
cuttings" you mean root divisions? Perhaps a root with one or more eyes on
it? The usual method of obtaining peony from catalogs here. 
	You should be seeing flowers on your herbaceous peony. One year missing I
can understand after planting, but two years should produce a flower or
two. How about planting depth? Eyes less than 2 inches below the soil line?

	Herbaceous peony should out last you and your children. Many of the old
stands around this area are 50 to 100 years old in the old farms seeds. 
	If I wanted to move the peony once more, I would wait until the foliage
has gone yellow and been removed this fall. Then take a good root ball with
the roots and settle in just above soil line in the next hole. Reason for
just above is dirt settles over winter and you do not want the eyes getting
too deep. Good luck,
	Gene Bush     Southern Indiana    Zone 6a     Munchkin Nursery
          around the woods - around the world
genebush@otherside.com     http://www.munchkinnursery.com

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> From: KAREN_STEWART@HP-UnitedKingdom-om9.om.hp.com

> Subject: Re[2]: Tree Peony/ Herbaceous & Tree
> Date: Tuesday, June 08, 1999 12:25 PM
> 
>      Thanks Gene,
>      
>      Am I right in assuming that they are part of the same family?  While

>      we are on the subject of peonies.., After finding out how glorious
the 
>      lactiflora alba was, I wanted more in the same border but didn't
have 
>      the funds to buy another established plant, so I bought some dry
root 
>      cuttings.  They have produced gradually increased foliage over the 
>      last two years, any idea how long before they flower?  Are
herbaceous 
>      peonies long lived?  
>      
>      I know they detest root disturbance, so is it possible to move an 
>      established one?
>      
>      Thanks
>      Karen in Cheshire
> 
> 
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> Subject: Re: Tree Peony/ Herbaceous & Tree
> Author:  Non-HP-genebush (genebush@otherside.com) at
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> Date:    08/06/99 14:46
> 
> 
> Hello Karen,
>         A tree peony is usually a small woody shrub with blooms and
foliage like
> the herbaceous types. In some climates and with some species they can
become 
> small trees as the name indicates. In winter they look like dead twigs...

> which should never, never, never be cut back. In early spring the new
buds 
> will form beginning the color. The buds swell and break to form leaves
and 
> blooms at the same time. With the woody stems many of the tree peony will

> hold the bloom better... more erect and out from the foliage. but you
have 
> to watch when purchasing to get this feature. Some very expensive tree
peony 
> have very poor bloom habits. Blooms get hidden behind foliage, weak
stems... 
> which does not show up in the photographs of course.
>         When spring rains come they do hold up a bit better than the
herbaceous,
> but not a whole lot. heavy full bloom with lots of moisture added will 
> droop, just not to the ground. The tree peony is usually an earlier
bloomer 
> as well.
>         Help any?
>         Gene Bush     Southern Indiana    Zone 6a     Munchkin Nursery
>           around the woods - around the world
> genebush@otherside.com     http://www.munchkinnursery.com
>      
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> > From: KAREN_STEWART@HP-UnitedKingdom-om9.om.hp.com 
> > Subject: Tree Peony
> > Date: Tuesday, June 08, 1999 5:52 AM 
> > 
> >      What is a tree peony?  Is this different from the herbaceous
peonies 
> I 
> >      have such as peony lactiflora alba or 'Sarah Bernhart'?  Do they 
> grow 
> >      to the size of trees? (& do they survive torrential downpours
better
>      
> >      than mine.....)
> >      
> >      Thanks
> >      Karen in Cheshire
> > 
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