Latin Names


A few questions:

1). Can anyone recommend an internet site on which I can click quickly to
match up the Latin plant names frequently used on this list with the more
common moniker, with which I usually am more familiar?

2). Someone mentioned feeding moonflower seedlings once they're transferred
outside. What do you feed them?

3). Seems like I should work "organic matter" into the soil of my three-year
old garden. It is populated with perennials. As I do not have a compost heap
(nor the space for one), any recommendations?

4). Where could I obtain some silver lace vine?

5). Re: catalogs. Yes, Michigan Bulb is el-stinko! I learned that the hard
way, unfortunately. But I recently received a Jackson & Perkins catalog --
there's more in it than roses. Thoughts on quality and prices anyone?

6). Anne Long - thanks for the blessings/scents. What a poet!  :-D

Many thanks! BOY am I learning a lot!

Baltimore Weather: an inch of snow on the ground this morning, being quickly
blown away by the wind today. I chopped back my butterfly bushes (buddelia,
I think....?), and grinned like a proud momma when I saw my daff and tulip
bulbs poking up!

M.


Maria C. Schaefer Nauman '86
Mount de Sales Academy
mnauman@mountdesales.org



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Subject: perennials DIGEST V2 #964



perennials DIGEST        Tuesday, March 2 1999        Volume 02 : Number 964



In this issue:

        Scents
        RE: Scents/new "baby"
        Scents
        Re: Scents
        RE: Scents
        RE: Scents
        Tilling in mud?
        Re: Scents
        Re:  Mantis
        RE: Tilling in mud?
        RE: Tilling in mud?
        RE: Tilling in mud?
        RE: Tilling in mud?
        Re: Scents
        Re: Scents/Lilacs
        Re: Tilling in mud?
        scents
        Re: scents
        RE: scents
        Re: Mantis
        Scent
        Re:  Mantis
        Re: Scent
        Re: Scent

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Date: Tue, 2 Mar 1999 09:31:26 -0800 
From: "Saxton, Susan" <SSaxton@Schwabe.com>
Subject: Scents

I was thinking this morning about the one scent that spurs me into a buying
frenzy at a nursery, that epitomizes the onset of summer for me, and that is
white alysum.  

I don't know what that is tied to in my past, but I always keep a solid row
of it by my back door for that reason.  It grows with a trachleosperum (star
jasmine) and when the two are in bloom together, it about knocks you over as
you approach (pleasantly).

What scent does this for you and why?  How do you incorporate it into your
garden?

Susan Saxton, zone 6b
For mine is just a little old fashioned garden where the 
flowers come together to praise the Lord and teach all 
who look upon them to do likewise.
Celia Thaxter

I AM in shape.  ROUND is a shape!

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Date: Tue, 2 Mar 1999 10:07:38 -0800 
From: "Pesznecker, Sue" <SPesznec@lhs.org>
Subject: RE: Scents/new "baby"

My scent?  At this time of year, winter daphne.... 'daphne odora.'  

In the spring.......  lilac.  I dont' have a lilac bush, but there are
several huge, old ones in my neighborhood, and I plan my spring evening
walks so that I can bury my face in the lilac bushes as I wander by.....

Hey-- I am the proud parent of a bouncing baby Mantis tiller-- purchased
yesterday!!  I have wanted one for a year or more, put it into the '99
budget, and got it yesterday.  I tried it out for a few seconds and wow,
even with the yet-muddy ground, what a little workhorse!

Sue P.

"You play, you pay......"





> I was thinking this morning about the one scent that spurs me into a
> buying
> frenzy at a nursery, that epitomizes the onset of summer for me, and that
> is
> white alysum.  
> 
> I don't know what that is tied to in my past, but I always keep a solid
> row
> of it by my back door for that reason.  It grows with a trachleosperum
> (star
> jasmine) and when the two are in bloom together, it about knocks you over
> as
> you approach (pleasantly).
> 
> What scent does this for you and why?  How do you incorporate it into your
> garden?
> 
> Susan Saxton, zone 6b
> 

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Date: Tue, 02 Mar 1999 13:31:38 -0500
From: Steve Hatch <stevemh@gis.net>
Subject: Scents

Yes on alyssum, in the day. But at night, nicotiana, tons of it,
strategically placed to fill the air. on a sultry july night, we float
in our pool with fireflies flickering and large sphinx moths feeding at
the nicotiana, trumpets of white nodding in the dark. delicious.

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Date: Tue, 02 Mar 1999 10:57:28 -0800
From: "Kathy Ortega" <kathyrogerortega@turbotek.net>
Subject: Re: Scents

Susan,

Gardenia does it for me.  Haven't researched what variety/growing conditions
are
best for the NW yet though.  Always plant alyssum too though and jasmine is
wonderful.  Scents and texture are my thing - even inside my house, lol.

Kathy Ortega
Olympia, WA

"Saxton, Susan" wrote:

> I was thinking this morning about the one scent that spurs me into a
buying
> frenzy at a nursery, that epitomizes the onset of summer for me, and that
is
> white alysum.
>
> I don't know what that is tied to in my past, but I always keep a solid
row
> of it by my back door for that reason.  It grows with a trachleosperum
(star
> jasmine) and when the two are in bloom together, it about knocks you over
as
> you approach (pleasantly).
>
> What scent does this for you and why?  How do you incorporate it into your
> garden?
>
> Susan Saxton, zone 6b
> For mine is just a little old fashioned garden where the
> flowers come together to praise the Lord and teach all
> who look upon them to do likewise.
> Celia Thaxter
>
> I AM in shape.  ROUND is a shape!
>
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Date: Tue, 2 Mar 1999 11:06:48 -0800 
From: "Saxton, Susan" <SSaxton@Schwabe.com>
Subject: RE: Scents

Oh Steve, you are definitely a "kindred spirit!"  The night, of course!
Patches of Nicotiana by each door and walkway!

I know I'm being sacriliges here (these are annuals, after all), but have
you ever tried night stock as well in patches thereabout?

Susan Saxton, zone 6b
For mine is just a little old fashioned garden where the 
flowers come together to praise the Lord and teach all 
who look upon them to do likewise.
Celia Thaxter

I AM in shape.  ROUND is a shape!


> -----Original Message-----
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> Sent: Tuesday, March 02, 1999 10:32 AM
> To: perennials@mallorn.com
> Subject: Scents
> 
> 
> Yes on alyssum, in the day. But at night, nicotiana, tons of it,
> strategically placed to fill the air. on a sultry july night, we float
> in our pool with fireflies flickering and large sphinx moths 
> feeding at
> the nicotiana, trumpets of white nodding in the dark. delicious.
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Date: Tue, 2 Mar 1999 15:02:34 -0500
From: lowery@teamzeon.com
Subject: RE: Scents

Valerie Lowery@ZEON
03/02/99 03:02 PM

I love the night scents of brugmansia and moonflowers around my patio.
Guests always seek out the source of the heavy perfume.  The lilium family
breaks my heart with the heady orientals and Easter lilies (one bloom
really does scent an entire room!).  The sweet smell of honeysuckle on a
hot day is refreshing along with mint (I usually make arrangements with
mint leaves to give a little punch to flowers with no scent).  Lavendar
always smells fresh.

But nothing says Spring to me like carnations!  You can smell the cloves
from the pinks in the evenings and early mornings; it seems as if they stay
in bloom for months.   I stick to the basic fluffy pale cheddar pink,
although Bath's Pink is becoming my fave because it is indestructible.

Val in KY
zone 6a


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Date: Tue, 2 Mar 1999 15:05:56 -0500
From: lowery@teamzeon.com
Subject: Tilling in mud?

Valerie Lowery@ZEON
03/02/99 03:05 PM

Sue, you were tilling in mud?!  I always heard that you end up with little
rocks when the soil dried.  I made the mistake of digging around when the
soil was wet and I ended up with bricks!  The soil was so unworkable after
that, I ended up scooping off the top and replacing with bagged soil.
Thank goodness I only did a small place for a few new perennials.

How did the tilling turn out for you?  If you didn't end up with rocks,
what's your secret?  Maybe it's just my soil...


Val in KY
zone 6a


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Date: Tue, 2 Mar 1999 15:08:35 EST
From: MurfsMomma@aol.com
Subject: Re: Scents

Agree with the nicotania.  Even though it is an annual, it usually reseeds
for
me in TX.  Also, we are fortunate to live in a mild area, so we can grow the
brugmansia (or datura, the "angel's trumpets") which reach about 8-10' in
height.  It will die to the ground in winter, but will resprout and attain
it's full size each year.  When this baby is in bloom, it is magnificent!
There have been over seventy of these HUGH blooms on the tree at one time,
and
the scent will perfume half the neighborhood.  In fact, the scent is so
strong
I planted mine at the farthest corner of my lot, and the fragrance is still
quite strong by the house.  One of my absolute favorites!

For spring bloom, you can try Carolina jessamine, which is an evergreen vine
with lovely, fragrant yellow blooms in early spring.

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Date: Tue, 2 Mar 1999 15:25:14 EST
From: SAdamsGARD@aol.com
Subject: Re:  Mantis

In a message dated 3/2/99 12:08:14 PM Central Standard Time,
SPesznec@lhs.org
writes:

<< Hey-- I am the proud parent of a bouncing baby Mantis tiller-- purchased
 yesterday!!  I have wanted one for a year or more, put it into the '99
 budget, and got it yesterday.  I tried it out for a few seconds and wow,
 even with the yet-muddy ground, what a little workhorse!
 
 Sue P.
  >>

I broke down last year and got one after I about killed myself one afternoon
in one garden bed.  It was so humid, I thought I'd pass out.  My only
problem
with it is that my grandkids love it and I have trouble using it when they
are
around.  Last fall I bought the detaching attachment and it is wonderful.
Guess it is almost time to use it again.

Sandy
Zone 6a

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Date: Tue, 2 Mar 1999 12:34:59 -0800 
From: "Saxton, Susan" <SSaxton@Schwabe.com>
Subject: RE: Tilling in mud?

No, I can vouch for your comments.  I live minutes from you Sue, and I had
someone till to early in the year and had rock clods all summer.

I don't till at all nowdays.  I use the Japanese method of smothering in
compost and just rocking back the soil with a spading fork every foot or so
to aerate.  Works like a charm.

Susan Saxton, zone 6b
For mine is just a little old fashioned garden where the 
flowers come together to praise the Lord and teach all 
who look upon them to do likewise.
Celia Thaxter

I AM in shape.  ROUND is a shape!


> -----Original Message-----
> From: lowery@teamzeon.com [l*@teamzeon.com]
> Sent: Tuesday, March 02, 1999 12:06 PM
> To: perennials@mallorn.com
> Subject: Tilling in mud?
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> Valerie Lowery@ZEON
> 03/02/99 03:05 PM
> 
> Sue, you were tilling in mud?!  I always heard that you end 
> up with little
> rocks when the soil dried.  I made the mistake of digging 
> around when the
> soil was wet and I ended up with bricks!  The soil was so 
> unworkable after
> that, I ended up scooping off the top and replacing with bagged soil.
> Thank goodness I only did a small place for a few new perennials.
> 
> How did the tilling turn out for you?  If you didn't end up 
> with rocks,
> what's your secret?  Maybe it's just my soil...
> 
> 
> Val in KY
> zone 6a
> 
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Date: Tue, 2 Mar 1999 13:12:28 -0800 
From: "Pesznecker, Sue" <SPesznec@lhs.org>
Subject: RE: Tilling in mud?

Don't worry, I only did a tiny spot about 2 feet square.  I know better than
to work wet soil, but couldn't resist!

Sue P.

"You play, you pay......"




> Valerie Lowery@ZEON
> 03/02/99 03:05 PM
> 
> Sue, you were tilling in mud?!  I always heard that you end up with little
> rocks when the soil dried.  I made the mistake of digging around when the
> soil was wet and I ended up with bricks!  The soil was so unworkable after
> that, I ended up scooping off the top and replacing with bagged soil.
> Thank goodness I only did a small place for a few new perennials.
> 
> How did the tilling turn out for you?  If you didn't end up with rocks,
> what's your secret?  Maybe it's just my soil...
> 
> 
> Val in KY
> zone 6a
> 
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Date: Tue, 2 Mar 1999 13:16:43 -0800 
From: "Pesznecker, Sue" <SPesznec@lhs.org>
Subject: RE: Tilling in mud?

Like I said, I just tried out a tiny bit.  For those of you who aren't
familiar with the 'Mantis', it is a small but mighty tiller-- works in an
area about 10" wide but can 'till 10-12" deep, and only weighs 20 lb..  With
something that easy to use, it will eliminate lots of spading, digging,
raking, and turning.

I will have to scratch-till a few areas of my property where I am breaking
up clay and establishing new beds.

And, will till the already-tilled areas, mixing in compost, mulch, peat,
fertilizer, and whatever else I can find.

Sue

"You play, you pay......"




> No, I can vouch for your comments.  I live minutes from you Sue, and I had
> someone till to early in the year and had rock clods all summer.
> 
> I don't till at all nowdays.  I use the Japanese method of smothering in
> compost and just rocking back the soil with a spading fork every foot or
> so
> to aerate.  Works like a charm.
> 
> 
> 
> > Sue, you were tilling in mud?!  I always heard that you end 
> > up with little
> > rocks when the soil dried.  I made the mistake of digging 
> > around when the
> > soil was wet and I ended up with bricks!  The soil was so 
> > unworkable after
> > that, I ended up scooping off the top and replacing with bagged soil.
> > Thank goodness I only did a small place for a few new perennials.
> > 
> > How did the tilling turn out for you?  If you didn't end up 
> > with rocks,
> > what's your secret?  Maybe it's just my soil...
> > 
> > 
> > Val in KY
> > zone 6a
> > 
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Date: Tue, 2 Mar 1999 17:07:23 -0500
From: Peggy Enes <peggy@unicom.net>
Subject: RE: Tilling in mud?

Sue,

I believe the more current research has found that tilling destroys
soil structure and beneficial soil microorganisms (not to mention being
tough on the earthworms). They have found that soils that are mulched
and left alone are superior to those that are tilled annually. The
researchers also found that the organic matter in the untilled beds is
more deeply worked in that of the yearly tilled beds after a period of
years.

I use my Mantis to till the really nasty, compacted clay I have
initially. After that, the earthworms and other soil critters keep the
organic mulches I use well worked into the soil.

Some people have reported excellent success with just piling up a lot
of organic matter on top of the clay and planting in that. So far, I've
found that technique has not done nearly as well as my once-tilled beds.

I would suggest trying some comparisons in your own garden as I've
found things that seem to work quite well for others don't seem to work
at all well in my own garden. Peat, in particular, is a disaster when
mixed with my clay soil although someone must be happy with it as it is
sold by the truckloads here.

Much to my dismay I've also found that by far, my best soil is equal
parts soil, sand and cotton burr compost. Sand is very, very heavy and
expensive.

Only use fresh gasoline in the Mantis. My carburetor got gummed up
from some gasoline that was about 6 weeks old. The people at Mantis
also suggested using the high octane gasoline as well.

If you use a lot of dry soil amendments you can till successfully in
some fairly wet clay. Pile the dry stuff on top before you start
tilling--not too tidy as the dry stuff flies some at first but it works
well.

At 4:16 PM -0500 3/2/99, "Pesznecker, Sue" <SPesznec@lhs.org> wrote:

> And, will till the already-tilled areas, mixing in compost, mulch, peat,
> fertilizer, and whatever else I can find.
>
> Sue
>
> "You play, you pay......"
>
>
>
>
> > No, I can vouch for your comments.  I live minutes from you Sue, and I
had
> > someone till to early in the year and had rock clods all summer.
> >
> > I don't till at all nowdays.  I use the Japanese method of smothering in
> > compost and just rocking back the soil with a spading fork every foot or
> > so
> > to aerate.  Works like a charm.
> >
> >
> >
> > > Sue, you were tilling in mud?!  I always heard that you end
> > > up with little
> > > rocks when the soil dried.  I made the mistake of digging
> > > around when the
> > > soil was wet and I ended up with bricks!  The soil was so
> > > unworkable after
> > > that, I ended up scooping off the top and replacing with bagged soil.
> > > Thank goodness I only did a small place for a few new perennials.
> > >
> > > How did the tilling turn out for you?  If you didn't end up
> > > with rocks,
> > > what's your secret?  Maybe it's just my soil...
> > >
> > >
> > > Val in KY
> > > zone 6a
> > >
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Date: Tue, 2 Mar 1999 17:17:22 -0500
From: Peggy Enes <peggy@unicom.net>
Subject: Re: Scents

So far, my favorite for fragrance is Polianthes tuberosa (tuberose). It
only has evening fragrance but the sweet, honey scent perfumes the
whole yard around twilight when the air is still. I plant tuberoses
around the walk to the house. It's fun when visitors stop dead in their
tracks, start sniffing the air around them and ask, "What smells so
wonderful?" This year I'm going to put some near the street so the
joggers and dog walkers can enjoy the scent.

I also plant tuberoses in containers and use them to switch with
containers of spring bulbs when the foliage starts looking ratty. The
cut flowers are long-lasting and one blossom scents the whole house in
the evening.

Jim Wilson mentioned on the Victory garden that tuberoses are called
funeral flowers in the south so they may have some unhappy memories
associated for some. I don't care for the scent of gladiolas because
they were so often used at funerals in the midwest. I believe
researchers have found that scent triggers our most powerful emotional
memories--good and bad.

Old-fashioned sweet peas smell wonderful although they don't seem all
that popular now. My grandmother grew loads of them and they were
always blooming when I first arrived for my summer visits so they are
favorites of mine. Peonies are nice for the same reason.

Summer phlox has a sweet summerish scent, good repeat bloom and makes a
terrific cut flower. I like Galium odorata (sweet woodruff) in other
people's gardens but mine doesn't seem to have any scent at all. The
monarda had a lovely scent but I ripped all mine out because of powdery
mildew--I'm trying some resistant varieties this year.

I'm very jeolous of people who can grow gardenias and jasmine. The
fragrance is divine but they don't winter over here. :(

At 12:31 PM -0500 3/2/99, "Saxton, Susan" <SSaxton@Schwabe.com> wrote:

> I was thinking this morning about the one scent that spurs me into a
buying
> frenzy at a nursery, that epitomizes the onset of summer for me, and that
is
> white alysum.
>
> I don't know what that is tied to in my past, but I always keep a solid
row
> of it by my back door for that reason.  It grows with a trachleosperum
(star
> jasmine) and when the two are in bloom together, it about knocks you over
as
> you approach (pleasantly).
>
> What scent does this for you and why?  How do you incorporate it into your
> garden?
>
> Susan Saxton, zone 6b
> For mine is just a little old fashioned garden where the
> flowers come together to praise the Lord and teach all
> who look upon them to do likewise.
> Celia Thaxter
>
> I AM in shape.  ROUND is a shape!


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Date: Tue, 2 Mar 1999 19:22:10 EST
From: Whigmaster@aol.com
Subject: Re: Scents/Lilacs

In a message dated 3/2/99 1:08:14 PM Eastern Standard Time, SPesznec@lhs.org
writes:

<< bury my face in the lilac bushes  >>
This does it for me! I feel like Ferdinand the Bull "smelling the flowers..I
could stick my nose in a lilac bouquet all day long.

Janice

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Date: Tue, 2 Mar 1999 20:29:15 -0500
From: "Ginny" <vhw95@fast.net>
Subject: Re: Tilling in mud?

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Have had a Mantis now for about seven years and can't imagine my life =
without it.  I find all sorts of reasons to get it out of the garden =
shed.  Just don't get so carried away that you overtill your soil and =
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My only complaint is that it is so hard to start.  Heard that the new =
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Ginny (zone 6 in PA)

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Heard that the new ones are much easier!</FONT></DIV>
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Date: Tue, 2 Mar 1999 20:33:18 -0500
From: "Ginny" <vhw95@fast.net>
Subject: scents

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My two favorite scents are Lilium 'Casa Blanca' --absolutely devine =
under a frequently used window.

Viburnum 'Carlesii' has got to be my all time favorite.  A real =
stop-in-your tracks scent.  Wish I could bottle it and enjoy it all =
year.

Ginny (zone 6 in PA)

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Date: Tue, 2 Mar 1999 19:42:49 -0600 (CST)
From: "Christopher P. Lindsey" <lindsey@mallorn.com>
Subject: Re: scents

> Viburnum 'Carlesii' has got to be my all time favorite.  A real =
> stop-in-your tracks scent.  Wish I could bottle it and enjoy it all =
> year.

That's the one that does it for me too, although I include Viburnum
x burkwoodii and Viburnum x juddii with it in terms of fragrance.
That smell always tells me that spring is here, so I have a V. carlesii
'Compactum' right by the front door (

   http://www.mallorn.com/pom/Apr98/

for those of you who want to know more about this one).

Other plants that I really enjoy for early spring fragrance are
lily-of-the-valley, grape hyacinths, sweet woodruff, and of course,
lilacs (particularly Syringa meyeri -- not very over-powering and
really pleasant).

Chris

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Date: Tue, 2 Mar 1999 21:02:19 -0500 
From: "Miller, Devon Lee" <DMiller@kilstock.com>
Subject: RE: scents

What cultivar do you recommend for the viburnum?  I looked at Chris
Lindsey's article, and he lists a number of cultivars.  It sounds like a
great shrub.

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Subject: scents


My two favorite scents are Lilium 'Casa Blanca' --absolutely devine under a
frequently used window.
 
Viburnum 'Carlesii' has got to be my all time favorite.  A real stop-in-your
tracks scent.  Wish I could bottle it and enjoy it all year.
 
Ginny (zone 6 in PA)

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Date: Tue, 2 Mar 1999 21:21:21 -0600
From: "dot" <cd71958@network-one.com>
Subject: Re: Mantis

Congratulations on new mantis

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Date: Tue, 02 Mar 1999 22:18:33 -0600
From: Lynara Tonner <tonners@Iroq.rurilnet.org>
Subject: Scent

You're gonna think I'm weird but...I live in a small midwest farming
community and in the spring the scent that makes me want to get out in the
garden is when the first farmer plows his field and the smell of the fresh
turned earth hangs heavy in the air!

Then of course there are the hyacinth, daffodils, Viburnums, Mockorange.
My grandmother used to raise the single tuberoses but they were lost when
she passed away.  I've ordered a white heliotrope and a yellow Brugmansia
for my back patio this year.  And every year I swear I am going to get a
Moonflower vine to grow up the trellis on the front porch but they never
seem to do anything.  I can get them to germinate okay but once they are
planted outside they just sit there.  Anybody got any ideas?

Thanks!  Lynara

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Date: Tue, 2 Mar 1999 22:26:28 -0600
From: thinkfast@linkfast.net (Leslie L. Smith)
Subject: Re:  Mantis

At 3:25 PM 3/2/99, SAdamsGARD@aol.com wrote:
>In a message dated 3/2/99 12:08:14 PM Central Standard Time,
SPesznec@lhs.org
>writes:
>
><< Hey-- I am the proud parent of a bouncing baby Mantis tiller-- purchased
> yesterday!!  I have wanted one for a year or more, put it into the '99
> budget, and got it yesterday.  I tried it out for a few seconds and wow,
> even with the yet-muddy ground, what a little workhorse!
>
> Sue P.

Sue I know you are excited but Please dont  use your tiller in the mud.
 you should wait till the ground is dry... about 3days less or more on
;your rainfall.
 it hurts the soil. Really .
no one told me either it isn't in the instructions.
i read it in Sunset Ithink and heard it agin in MG classes any diggin in
the dirt can cause the soil damage. something about it can't absorb the
minerals Ijsut know not to do it.

I would have had to try it too!  <g>

- --leslie


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Date: Tue, 2 Mar 1999 23:39:23 EST
From: Blee811@aol.com
Subject: Re: Scent

In a message dated 3/2/99 11:22:41 PM Eastern Standard Time,
tonners@Iroq.rurilnet.org writes:

<< white heliotrope >>
White heliotrope (and the purple one too for that matter) is not perennial
here in 6A Cincinnati.  But it does have a wonderful vanilla fragrance and I
grew it one year when I found plants locally.  I seem to recall that it
expired in the heat of the August sun.  However the purple one persisted
throughout the season and has a nice fragrance, but not quite as nice as the
white.  I'd grow both plants again even though I have to treat them as
annuals.

Bill Lee

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Date: Tue, 2 Mar 1999 23:58:46 -0500
From: "Ginny" <vhw95@fast.net>
Subject: Re: Scent

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Try waiting till the ground and the outside temps have warmed up nicely =
and then feed, feed, feed.  Pray for hot weather--it's what makes them =
grow.

Ginny

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