great photos

	Thanks, Chris, for the URLs to great photos of the Syringa laciniata
(cutleaf lilac).  I had used altavista for search, hoping to find photos,
and got some useful information (6-8 feet tall, heat resistant, more
tolerant of partial shade than other lilacs, very fragrant, early blooming)
but no photos.  What search engines do you recommend for plant photos?
	Also, I love your own photos; the campanula takesima was
breathtaking. I find I cannot, however, use the "save" to put them in a file
for enjoying on my Mac desktop later--is this part of your copyright
protection (if so, I respect that)?
	I am happy about getting the Viburnum juddii (and at such a good
price), and, yes, Barb, I agree about memories and the scent of flowers for
sure. I grow a number of shrubs for their fragrance, especially daphnes.
I've had a V. carlesii for years and love it very much, so knowing the Judd
is a daughter/son (??) is great.  Like Chris, I got the Henry's Garnet Itea
virginica, which is also supposed to be fragrant.
	You got some great perennials. In my experience, that hardy begonia
will spread in a moist shady spot, not invasive, just nicely reseeding over
the years. Isn't the abutilon non-hardy?  I have one in a container and I
assumed that it was annual in our zone... 
	I see also you got a new Schizophragma; did you ever have any luck
with the ones that you and I and Frank mail ordered together a few years
ago?  Mine is growing, slowly for sure, but still there, yet no signs of
blooms.  I guess that, like the climbing hydrangea, it is slow to establish
enough to bloom.
	I try to buy plants for which I have a place in mind (and,
hopefully, a place that is ready or almost ready to plant), but it doesn't
always turn out that way and I hate to pass up opportunities.  But out of a
sense of respect for "plant happiness," I won't buy a plant that I don't
think I can create the cultural environment for, even if I love it, e.g., my
one attempt with a Himalyan blue poppy (sigh, only in the Pacific
Northwest)...

Susan and David in Urbana, Illinois, zone 5b
Date: Wed, 20 Sep 2000 11:03:35 -0500
From: "Christopher P. Lindsey" <lindsey@mallorn.com>
Subject: Re: new plants

>    I couldn't resist a 40% off sale at a local nursery recently and
> brought home four shrubs and four perennials. Two of the shrubs I had been
> looking for anyway (great excuse), the Wine and Roses Weigela and Henry's
> Garnet sweetspire (Itea virginica), but I wound up getting a Viburnum
juddi
> and a lilac with the strangest foliage (more like that of a threadleaf
> coreopsis!) called Syringa lacinata.  Does anyone have information about
any
> of these?

Hi Susan, 

   Sounds like you and I were out at the same place this past week!  :)
   I went twice, and each time I spent way too much money (actually, it
   wasn't too bad at 40% off!)

   I also picked up Syringa laciniata, although I'm not sure what I'll
   do with it.  It's supposed to get 6-8' high and I'd guess that it
   likes sun (although I hope it'll be like S. meyeri and tolerate a 
   fair amount of shade without legginess).  Here's some photos that
   I found online:

      http://www.bcc.orst.edu/hort228/syla1.htm
      http://www.bcc.orst.edu/hort228/syla2.htm
      http://www.bcc.orst.edu/hort228/syla3.htm

   Sounds like it's hardy to zone 4, too.

   V. x juddii is a cross between V. carlesii and V. bitchiuense.  To
   me it looks very similar to V. carlesii (although less open) but
   boasts much stronger disease resistance.  It reaches 6-8', and the
   flowers are almost exactly like those of V. carlesii.

   Here's my list of goodies:

      Tricyrtis x miazaka 'White Towers' 
      Tricyrtis hirta
      Tricyrtis (unknown variegated form) (3)
      Begonia grandis (5)
      Ilex glabra 'Shamrock' (2)
      Myrica pensylvanica
      Abutilon 'Clemantime'
      Brugmansia versicolor 'Peach Chandelier'
      Rhododendron mucronulatum
      Itea virginica 'Henry's Garnet'
      Viburnum nudum 'Winterthur'
      Rubus arcticus
      Penstemon heterophyllus 'Blue Springs'
      Hakonechla macra 'Albo-striata'
      Schizophragma hydrangeoides 'Brookside Little Leaf'
      Campanula punctata 'Cherry Bells'
      Stachys 'Helenolon Stein' (not sure about the name; hard to read)
      Saxifraga veitchiana
      Salvia officinalis 'Tricolor'
      Saxifraga stolonifera
      Tiarella spp. (I lost the tag and can't remember what it was -- ARGH!)

   Now to just find homes for them all...  :)

Chris


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