perennials DIGEST V3 #138


perennials DIGEST      Monday, September 23 2002      Volume 03 : Number 138



In this issue:

        Re: OT: hydrangea
        tricyrtis
        Re: tricyrtis

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Date: Mon, 23 Sep 2002 16:01:44 -0400
From: "Merri Morgan" <mmorgan@wcgnet.net>
Subject: Re: OT: hydrangea

Just wanted to mention that there is a macrophylla called "All Summer
Beauty" that blooms on new wood.  Does best if cut back to the ground every
spring, so of course it stays small.
Merri Morgan
zone 5b in WV
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From: <ECPep@aol.com>
To: <perennials@hort.net>
Sent: Monday, September 23, 2002 11:26 AM
Subject: Re: OT: hydrangea


> In a message dated 9/23/02 12:14:22 AM Eastern Daylight Time,
mtalt@hort.net
> writes:
>
>
> > You don't say which hydrangea you have, but I'd guess it's a mop head
> > (H. macrophylla), whose buds are generally hardy to USDA z 6, but
> > siting can make a difference.  It blooms on old wood, so if the
> > flower buds get frosted by a very cold winter or a late spring frost,
> > then you won't get flowers.
> >
> > Marge has the right question, which species do you have?  When you get
in
> > the area between just where macrophylla will or will not bloom that is
> > usually the answer.  Up here in zones 4 and 5 there will be a occasional
> > year when a macrophylla or anything other than paniculata cultivars will
> > bloom and folks become encouraged. It usually does not happen a second
time
> > so it is worth looking into the many new paniculata cultivars.   Some of
> > these are very striking compared to older forms seen all over the
> > Northeast. 'Unique' is a very beautiful one, there are others including
one
> > that is very nearly pink. They are slow starters compared to the older
> > forms so buy a good sized plant.
>
>
> Also still OT, if you like the lacecap hydrangeas that we cannot grow in
the
> north, several viburnums look quite like them and are much hardier.   A
> hybrid call 'Shoshoni' is a good one.  All of these plants, no matter
which
> species, are number one on the list of deer food so plant where safe or
> expect deer damage.  Deer eat hydrangea all seasons.
>
> Claire Peplowski
> NYS z4
>
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Date: Mon, 23 Sep 2002 23:00:05 -0400
From: Linda Wallpe <lwallpe@juno.com>
Subject: tricyrtis

Hello Fellow List Members!

In as much as our soil required a jackhammer to penetrate it this summer
due to heat and drought, I shopped.  For plants that is.  Even the things
purchased in May didn't all get planted.
Now the rains and cooler temperatures have arrived and I'm sorting and
planting.
Today I found that I had purchased 5 different Tricyrtis (2 from our own
Gene Bush).
One was a variety labeled  T. hirta 'Moonlight'.  There is no further
information pn the label.  It is growing in the pot and resembles a
ground cover.  
After considerable searching, (and using our own Marge Tait's terrific
Suite 101 tricyrtis article as a jumping off point), other than listings
and prices, this is all I've discovered.
Tricyrtis hirta 'Moonlight'   It is a lime green gold sport of T. hirta
Variegata, and a mature clump shines brightly. ( Roslyn Nursery 
http://www.roslynnursery.com/  )

Do any of you grow this, and if so, how tall does it grow?
Thanks!

Linda Wallpe
Cincinnati

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Date: Mon, 23 Sep 2002 23:41:04 EDT
From: Meum71@aol.com
Subject: Re: tricyrtis

In a message dated 9/23/2002 10:02:40 PM Central Daylight Time, 
lwallpe@juno.com writes:


> Do any of you grow this, and if so, how tall does it grow?
> Thanks!
> 

Most of the "T hirta'" types grow from 2-4 feet tall.  They have long 
attractive arching stems or nice upright stems.
They bloom late summer to late fall.

Speaking  of T. hirta  - I was out last week fertilizing the beds (Trying to 
get every thing sprayed two more times before the season ends this year-we 
all most had our first frost of the year last Sunday) and I noticed that 
there was a pure white flowering seedling from my mixed clump of T hirta 
'Miyazaki.' 

Normally these plants bloom so late that I have given up ever getting ripe 
seeds but after spotting this seedling I will be keep my eye out for "good" 
seed and see what I can get.

The white flowering plant has good large flowers and blooms with axillary 
flowers all down the stem-since the plant is only two years old (a guess) it 
is only about 18 inches tall.  The normal height of this seed strain is 3-4 
feet with well branched stems and lots of flowers all down the stems but they 
take about five years to reach there full size in decent soils.

Are there any other pure white forms out on the market right now-no spots at 
all.

Paul

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