Re: Seeds/experiment
Thanks for the support Kathie, the experiment idea has taken off 10 fold
what I thought it would, and actually, I know of quite a few who will be
doing some growing of my 771 this year, so it is the same experiment on
a smaller level. Beth said it best, as with every pair of seeds that go
out , a informative questionarre should be sent, as well as frequent
updates for each to compare notes. A step further would be a website
devoting a page solely to the pumpkins being grown from the one seed,
and give weekly updates as to what is happening.
The next input (and good topic for this list) is "what questions
should be included on the questionarre"? The basics, youknow.. date seed
started, germinated, transplanted, temps, soil temps, dates recorded for
stuff like vine reaching 10 ft, first male blossom, first female
blossom, pollenation dates, etc... Next question is, do we try to figure
out if we need to go with a pollenator plant so the crosses are all the
same? If so, Joe Ailts and Len S are really on to something here with
the hybrid vigor talk.. Trace a certain pumpkin back into the genetic
background for a few generations, some growers back up favorable traits
by reintroducing and reinforcing the same seed stock generation after
generation. I personally like the 815 Checkon and the Lloyd 935 traits,
that is why I crossed the 815 with the Lloyd 935.. Here is the lineup..
* In 1995, George Lloyd crossed the 1994 614 Neilly with the 1994
752.8 Craven, producing the 687.5 Lloyd.
* In 1996, Goerge went to work with the 687.5, and self pollenated
two pumpkins, producing the 909.5 and the 875 UOW Lloyd.
* In 1997, the 1996 Lloyd 875 UOW Lloyd was crossed with the 1996
909.5 Lloyd and that brought the Lloyd 935...
* In 1998, Larry Checkon crossed a seed from largest pumpkin in
1997, the Andersen 977 (which has some of my favorite ancestors - the
Ciliberto 697 and the Greer 1006) and crossed it with the 935.
* In 2000, I took the Checkon 815, and crossed it with the 935,
producing the 771 and 679 on the asame plant.. Okay.. why all this
babble? Take a look back at the ancestry of my fruit, and you will see
the same grandparents, the 909.5 and the 875 Lloyd in 3 of the 4
branches of my fruits background. Now that I have the 935 traits firmly
set in these seeds, I have plans this season to give a cross of the 815
with my 771, bringing the same grandparents into 6 of the 8 branches of
its family tree, reinforcing the traits of two of the most favorable
seeds out there, the 815 (thick walls, cream color, mid to late plant
vigor) , and the Lloyd 935 (cream color, heavy cantelouping, thick
walls, weighs heavy to charts).
Call me crazy, but there is some method to my madness, and to see a
group of 50 growers grow the same seed, and give it the special
attention needed for AG's, I honestly believe you will be stunned by the
results, and if they can cross it with a Checkon 815 or Ciliberto 697,
the seeds stock they will come up with for years will be dynamite! Give
it some thought, it makes sense..
Joe, Len, your thoughts?
Kathie Morgan wrote:
>
> Deb, since it was Rocky's idea, shouldn't he have some say in who's the
> boss? Let's hear from him on this before we jump in. Kathie
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