Re: Seeds/experiment
just what i was thinking, about the pollinator, may not be possible for
everyone to have the same one. hey another idea, maybe we could self it and
carry on the next year?
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From: Lyle Rockwell <rocky.r@cyber-quest.com>
To: pumpkins@mallorn.com <pumpkins@mallorn.com>
Date: 17 April 2001 04:08
Subject: Re: Seeds/experiment
>Thanks for the support Kathie, the experiment idea has taken off 10 fold
>what I thought it would, and actually, I know of quite a few who will be
>doing some growing of my 771 this year, so it is the same experiment on
>a smaller level. Beth said it best, as with every pair of seeds that go
>out , a informative questionarre should be sent, as well as frequent
>updates for each to compare notes. A step further would be a website
>devoting a page solely to the pumpkins being grown from the one seed,
>and give weekly updates as to what is happening.
> The next input (and good topic for this list) is "what questions
>should be included on the questionarre"? The basics, youknow.. date seed
>started, germinated, transplanted, temps, soil temps, dates recorded for
>stuff like vine reaching 10 ft, first male blossom, first female
>blossom, pollenation dates, etc... Next question is, do we try to figure
>out if we need to go with a pollenator plant so the crosses are all the
>same? If so, Joe Ailts and Len S are really on to something here with
>the hybrid vigor talk.. Trace a certain pumpkin back into the genetic
>background for a few generations, some growers back up favorable traits
>by reintroducing and reinforcing the same seed stock generation after
>generation. I personally like the 815 Checkon and the Lloyd 935 traits,
>that is why I crossed the 815 with the Lloyd 935.. Here is the lineup..
>
>* In 1995, George Lloyd crossed the 1994 614 Neilly with the 1994
>752.8 Craven, producing the 687.5 Lloyd.
>
>* In 1996, Goerge went to work with the 687.5, and self pollenated
>two pumpkins, producing the 909.5 and the 875 UOW Lloyd.
>
>* In 1997, the 1996 Lloyd 875 UOW Lloyd was crossed with the 1996
>909.5 Lloyd and that brought the Lloyd 935...
>
>* In 1998, Larry Checkon crossed a seed from largest pumpkin in
>1997, the Andersen 977 (which has some of my favorite ancestors - the
>Ciliberto 697 and the Greer 1006) and crossed it with the 935.
>
>* In 2000, I took the Checkon 815, and crossed it with the 935,
>producing the 771 and 679 on the asame plant.. Okay.. why all this
>babble? Take a look back at the ancestry of my fruit, and you will see
>the same grandparents, the 909.5 and the 875 Lloyd in 3 of the 4
>branches of my fruits background. Now that I have the 935 traits firmly
>set in these seeds, I have plans this season to give a cross of the 815
>with my 771, bringing the same grandparents into 6 of the 8 branches of
>its family tree, reinforcing the traits of two of the most favorable
>seeds out there, the 815 (thick walls, cream color, mid to late plant
>vigor) , and the Lloyd 935 (cream color, heavy cantelouping, thick
>walls, weighs heavy to charts).
>
> Call me crazy, but there is some method to my madness, and to see a
>group of 50 growers grow the same seed, and give it the special
>attention needed for AG's, I honestly believe you will be stunned by the
>results, and if they can cross it with a Checkon 815 or Ciliberto 697,
>the seeds stock they will come up with for years will be dynamite! Give
>it some thought, it makes sense..
>
>Joe, Len, your thoughts?
>
>
>Kathie Morgan wrote:
>>
>> Deb, since it was Rocky's idea, shouldn't he have some say in who's the
>> boss? Let's hear from him on this before we jump in. Kathie
>>
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