RE: AG gene survival
- Subject: RE: AG gene survival
- From: "Smithhisler, Paul" P*@dnr.state.oh.us
- Date: Mon, 21 Apr 2003 14:33:00 -0400
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It is interesting that all of them except three (970 & 966 Gervais & 888
Mombert) were one year out of production in the four generations. (i.e.,
they were 1998 seeds). It would be interesting to find out how many of the
older seeds are parents to the younger ones (i.e. 5th or 6th generation).
-Gus
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From: The Eatons [e*@magma.ca]
Sent: Monday, April 21, 2003 2:15 PM
To: 'The Group'
Subject: AG gene survival
Group--a while ago somebody commented about where the top seeds came from,a
subject near and dear to my heart, I have been looking at that theme since I
first got interested in AGs.Of course it depends how you look at the
question.
Any genes that survive for 4 generations deserve a lot of attention in my
view.
The important fruit below are listed geographically but if there is any
interest I will also show then grouped by year too,which paints a somewhat
different story.
Of course there are many top AGs at the 1,2 and 3 generation stage and in
due course SOME of them will survive to 4 generations.Note that quite often
it is one seed,not one fruit but one seed from that fruit,that has made the
great genetic progress.
This is just a simple list of facts.If anyone has any comments or insight to
share then please do so.---AE
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35 official 1000+ Giant Pumpkins grown in 2002
Mothers' ancestors,4 generations back
The genes of the following pumpkins and squash have survived for four
generations and contributed to at least one 1000+ pumpkin in 2002.
Example-listing all the fruit 4 generations back on the mothers'pedigrees
for the 35 at 1000+,the "609 Laemmle 89" shows up 21 times.Thus
the
frequency of 21 shows the weighted importance to the present AG
gene pool.--------A.Eaton,Jan/03
609 Laemmle 89---21 NJ
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821 Stellpflug 90(sq)-1 NY
807 Stellpflug 90(sq)-1 NY
884 Black 93------2 NY
804 Zehr 94-------4 NY
620 Stellpflug 94(sq)-1 NY
963 Zehr 95-------7 NY
620 Black 96------6 NY
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616 Holland 91---21 WA
827 Holland 92----1 WA
722 Holland 92----1 WA
782 Holland 93----2 WA
910 Nelson 94-----1 WA
708.5 Holland 95--1 WA
768 Holland 96----1 WA
671 Mettler 97----2 WA
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573 McCahill 91---1 ON
755 Craven 93-----2 ON
721.5 Eaton 93----1 ON
990 Bax 94--------2 ON
752.8 Craven 94--14 ON
887 Orr 95--------2 ON
824.5 Veens 95---13 ON
687 Lloyd 95-----49 ON
637 Lloyd 95------5 ON
559 Geerts 95----13 ON
1006 Greer 96-----2 ON
946.5 Geerts 96---3 ON
909.5 Lloyd 96----7 ON
875 Lloyd 96------7 ON
970 Gervais 98----1 ON
966 Gervais 98----1 ON
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567.5 Mombert 92-22 OR
888 Mombert 98----4 OR
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734 Ciliberto 93--2 PA
556 Ciliberto 93--1 PA
697 Ciliberto 94--1 PA
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511 Woodward 93---1 MA
914 Weir 94-------4 MA
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923 Brown 94------1 MN
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636 MacDonald 93--2 QC
815.4 Orr 94------1 QC
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680 Dill 94-------1 NS
614 Neily 94-----12 NS
398 McInnis 95----1 NS
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562 Rose 95-------7 OH
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825.5 Shymanski 96-7 WI
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783 Solomon 96----1 CA
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