RE: pumpkins DIGEST V1 #669


One Kilo equals two point two pound.

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> pumpkins DIGEST         Sunday, April 11 1999         Volume 01 :
> Number 669
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> In this issue:
> 
>         Re: Parentages
>         Re: Australian Giant Pumpkin & Vegetable Competition
>         Re: Australian Giant Pumpkin & Vegetable Competition
>         Re: Australian Giant Pumpkin & Vegetable Competition
>         Re: Australian Giant Pumpkin & Vegetable Competiti
>         Re: Parentages
>         Re: Australian Giant Pumpkin & Vegetable Competiti
>         Re: Parentages
>         Re: Parentages
>         Southern California Planting Times?
>         Re: Parentages
>         Dolly update - 2.05 pm
>         Re:1996 Geerts 946.5 Auction
>         Re-IPGA Auction
>         IPGA SEED AUCTION - DAY 10 GRAND FINALE
>         Re: IPGA SEED AUCTION - DAY 10 GRAND FINALE
>         Mettler 974 not Mettler 987: IPGA Auction
>         Re: Southern California Planting Times?
>         Re: Southern California Planting Times?
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> Date: Sat, 10 Apr 1999 10:31:02 -0700
> From: "Harold Eddleman Ph.D." <indbio@disknet.com>
> Subject: Re: Parentages
> 
> From: Harold Eddleman
> See my comment at the very bottom; a problem I am struggling with.
> 
> pumpkins@mallorn.com wrote:
> > 
> > > I fully agree with you on this, and in light of discussions with
> > > Harold, I think it might be a good idea to carefully identify 
> > > "self" or "sib".  eg. 123 Eaton 1998 x self is not the same as 
> > > 123 Eaton 1998 x 123 Eaton 1998.
> > >
> > >Till next time...
> > >*******************************************************************
> > >Rock - I agree with that and perhaps we can encourage others to do
> the same.
> > 
> > This means pollination could be:
> >  open----by mother nature
> >  cross---by hand-from plant of a different mother
> >  self----by hand-from same plant
> >  sib-----by hand-from different plant with same mother
> > 
> > The only change would be as follows:
> > 
> >         This----700 Rivard 99--600 Rivard 98 x 600 Rivard 98(self)
> > 
> >    Or This-----------------------------------x 600 Rivard 98(sib)
> > 
> > I'm not sure that the terms are all botanically correct but I think
> it is
> > OK and would be an improvement and leaves little room for error.
> > 
> > How does this explanation look to you?
> > 
> From: Harold Eddleman 
>   We can add testcross (tc) to Rock's list. In a testcross we mate an
> unknown with homozygous recessive as a cross to test whether the
> unknown
> has the recessive gene. Testcrosses can be very useful also when
> checking linkages (assigning gene to chromosome or location on the
> chromosome). We are not that far in AG genetics, but Keel just sent me
> some testcross data on seed color which he discovered in his records.
> 
>   Here is a complication. Suppose a vine has 2 or more fruits. I think
> I
> have heard of vines that had more than 3 fruits and each was a few
> hundred pounds weight. How do we name those pumpkins?
>   Keep in mind that the female contribution to all four fruits is
> identical. Therefore, if you selfed all 4 fruits, the seeds from all
> the
> fruits are similar and there is no reason not to put them in a single
> jar. In practice, I might cross the first female flower, self the
> second
> flower, and sib or testcross the 3rd and 4th flowers. I guess a
> contestant wants only one fruit per plant, my remarks above are for
> your
> seed (or research) nursery.
>   While all siblings are, on average, somewhat identical, they can
> differ greatly in allelic content. Sibs are not identical twins.
> Siblings differ greatly in production potential. Therefore, I have
> always identified the the sib that furnished the pollen and a seed bag
> might have this label: 1998-34Db sib A. That decodes as follows. Fruit
> was grown in 1998; second ear on 4th plant in row 34; pollen was from
> a
> sib which was the first plant in the row. [All the seeds planted in a
> row came from one fruit].
>   My point is: We may speed up our progress to large fruits if we
> understand the parentage better. It may make a difference if a future
> breeder can look back and know that two  WWW Dill 1991 are different
> seeds. A human can figure that out as they were planted by different 
> breeders, but to a computer they are identical. They are the same
> string
> of characters.
>   I am reading Lerner's "Genetic Homeostasis" (1954). He gave lots of
> data and in all instances inbred lines had greater varibility than the
> hybrid created by crossing them. One lesson from this is that if you
> are
> inbreeding by selfing and sibbing to get a line pure for important
> traits, you have to expect pumpkin weights to vary alarmingly. In his
> examples they had sibbed (brother x sister) for 10 to 60 generations.
> They used mice, chickens, fruit flies, but plant breeders had not
> recorded variability--seems they blamed it on growing conditions.  
> 
>  In my corn work I labeled the top ear A and the next was B, C, D
> (rare
> plants did produce 4 ears having seeds). If you ask me about
> 1971-100Db,  I can get my 1971 notebook turn to the page for row 100
> and
> read lots of nice details, from the page header, about the ear planted
> (including its identification), go down to the 4th plant (D) and tell
> you its description, and under b tell you about the second ear (the
> pollen used, size of ear, color of seed, etc).
>    
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> Date: Sat, 10 Apr 1999 14:41:53 -0700
> From: "Judy Stallcop" <stallcop@medford.net>
> Subject: Re: Australian Giant Pumpkin & Vegetable Competition
> 
> Hello, can someone translate the kgs into pounds please???????
> 
> Judy
> 
> 
> - ----- Original Message -----
> From: Pumpkin Lady <atlantic@alphalink.com.au>
> To: 'Pumpkin Mailing List' <pumpkins@mallorn.com>; Paul & Lorene
> Latham
> <latham@alphalink.com.au>; Tom Karnatz <rkarnatz@netdocs.com>
> Sent: Saturday, April 10, 1999 1:02 AM
> Subject: Australian Giant Pumpkin & Vegetable Competition
> 
> 
> > Today, 10th April, 1999 the Australasian Giant Pumpkin & Vegetable
> > Competition held by the Australian Giant Pumpkin & Vegetable Society
> > Inc, was held at four sites across Australia.  The results were:
> >
> > 1st    Rodney Leadbeatter, Alstonville, N.S.W.
> > (weighed at Queensland site)   268.9kgs  (NEW AUSTRALIAN RECORD)
> >
> > 2nd   209.1kgs  from Western Australia (no further details available
> as
> > yet)
> >
> > 3rd   192.1kgs  Ian Miller from Victoria
> >
> > 4th    174.5kgs  from Australian Capital Territory (no further
> details
> > available as yet)
> >
> > Squash   202.1kgs  Ian Miller (new Australian Record) Victoria
> >               184.3kgs  Stan Reid, Queensland
> >               91.8kgs     Western Australia
> >
> > Paul Latham of Victoria broke his own Australian Record for a
> Sunflower,
> > with a sunflower 4.250metres.
> >
> > Please do not hesitate to contact me if you would like further
> > information, atlantic@alphalink.com.au.
> >
> > Wendy Stayner
> > Secretary
> >
> >
> >
> >
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> Date: Sat, 10 Apr 1999 15:06:48 -0700
> From: "Keith R. Holden" <kholden@ampsc.com>
> Subject: Re: Australian Giant Pumpkin & Vegetable Competition
> 
> Judy multiply by 2.2 and you get pounds  eg 100Kg x2.2+ 220 pounds
> Cheers
> Keith
> At 02:41 PM 10/04/1999 -0700, you wrote:
> >Hello, can someone translate the kgs into pounds please???????
> >
> >Judy
> >
> >
> >----- Original Message -----
> >From: Pumpkin Lady <atlantic@alphalink.com.au>
> >To: 'Pumpkin Mailing List' <pumpkins@mallorn.com>; Paul & Lorene
> Latham
> ><latham@alphalink.com.au>; Tom Karnatz <rkarnatz@netdocs.com>
> >Sent: Saturday, April 10, 1999 1:02 AM
> >Subject: Australian Giant Pumpkin & Vegetable Competition
> >
> >
> >> Today, 10th April, 1999 the Australasian Giant Pumpkin & Vegetable
> >> Competition held by the Australian Giant Pumpkin & Vegetable
> Society
> >> Inc, was held at four sites across Australia.  The results were:
> >>
> >> 1st    Rodney Leadbeatter, Alstonville, N.S.W.
> >> (weighed at Queensland site)   268.9kgs  (NEW AUSTRALIAN RECORD)
> >>
> >> 2nd   209.1kgs  from Western Australia (no further details
> available as
> >> yet)
> >>
> >> 3rd   192.1kgs  Ian Miller from Victoria
> >>
> >> 4th    174.5kgs  from Australian Capital Territory (no further
> details
> >> available as yet)
> >>
> >> Squash   202.1kgs  Ian Miller (new Australian Record) Victoria
> >>               184.3kgs  Stan Reid, Queensland
> >>               91.8kgs     Western Australia
> >>
> >> Paul Latham of Victoria broke his own Australian Record for a
> Sunflower,
> >> with a sunflower 4.250metres.
> >>
> >> Please do not hesitate to contact me if you would like further
> >> information, atlantic@alphalink.com.au.
> >>
> >> Wendy Stayner
> >> Secretary
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
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> Date: Sat, 10 Apr 1999 18:01:45 -0400
> From: "Jim DuBois" <jimdubois@capeonramp.com>
> Subject: Re: Australian Giant Pumpkin & Vegetable Competition
> 
> 1 kg.=2.2lb.
> - -----Original Message-----
> From: Judy Stallcop <stallcop@medford.net>
> To: pumpkins@mallorn.com <pumpkins@mallorn.com>
> Date: Saturday, April 10, 1999 6:58 PM
> Subject: Re: Australian Giant Pumpkin & Vegetable Competition
> 
> 
> >Hello, can someone translate the kgs into pounds please???????
> >
> >Judy
> >
> >
> >----- Original Message -----
> >From: Pumpkin Lady <atlantic@alphalink.com.au>
> >To: 'Pumpkin Mailing List' <pumpkins@mallorn.com>; Paul & Lorene
> Latham
> ><latham@alphalink.com.au>; Tom Karnatz <rkarnatz@netdocs.com>
> >Sent: Saturday, April 10, 1999 1:02 AM
> >Subject: Australian Giant Pumpkin & Vegetable Competition
> >
> >
> >> Today, 10th April, 1999 the Australasian Giant Pumpkin & Vegetable
> >> Competition held by the Australian Giant Pumpkin & Vegetable
> Society
> >> Inc, was held at four sites across Australia.  The results were:
> >>
> >> 1st    Rodney Leadbeatter, Alstonville, N.S.W.
> >> (weighed at Queensland site)   268.9kgs  (NEW AUSTRALIAN RECORD)
> >>
> >> 2nd   209.1kgs  from Western Australia (no further details
> available as
> >> yet)
> >>
> >> 3rd   192.1kgs  Ian Miller from Victoria
> >>
> >> 4th    174.5kgs  from Australian Capital Territory (no further
> details
> >> available as yet)
> >>
> >> Squash   202.1kgs  Ian Miller (new Australian Record) Victoria
> >>               184.3kgs  Stan Reid, Queensland
> >>               91.8kgs     Western Australia
> >>
> >> Paul Latham of Victoria broke his own Australian Record for a
> Sunflower,
> >> with a sunflower 4.250metres.
> >>
> >> Please do not hesitate to contact me if you would like further
> >> information, atlantic@alphalink.com.au.
> >>
> >> Wendy Stayner
> >> Secretary
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
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> Date: Sat, 10 Apr 1999 12:24:08 -0700
> From: "Harold Eddleman Ph.D." <indbio@disknet.com>
> Subject: Re: Australian Giant Pumpkin & Vegetable Competiti
> 
> pumpkins@mallorn.com wrote:
> > 
> > Hello, can someone translate the kgs into pounds please???????
> > 
> > Judy
> 2.2 x kg = american pounds
> 
> - -- 
> Harold Eddleman Ph.D. Microbiologist.       i*@disknet.com 
> Location: Palmyra IN USA; 36 kilometers west of Louisville, Kentucky
> http://www.disknet.com/indiana_biolab
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> Date: Sat, 10 Apr 1999 18:31:40 -0400
> From: "Rock Rivard" <jenaipas@netrover.com>
> Subject: Re: Parentages
> 
> excerpt from Harold,
> >  Keep in mind that the female contribution to all four fruits is
> >identical. Therefore, if you selfed all 4 fruits, the seeds from all
> the
> >fruits are similar and there is no reason not to put them in a single
> >jar. In practice, I might cross the first female flower, self the
> second
> >flower, and sib or testcross the 3rd and 4th flowers. I guess a ....
> 
> In genetics tc probably has an importance, but in competitive pumpkin
> growing, I think that very few will actually have more than 2 pumpkins
> per
> plant.
> 
> Very often, a grower will use pollen from several male to mate 1
> female. If
> the male flowers come from a different plant than that of the female,
> this
> is obviuosly a cross. If using multiple male flowers (from the same
> plant as
> the female) to pollinate, what happens to the genes? Are the male
> flowers
> from a same plant genetically different? Should this type of
> pollination be
> note?
> 
> A few not so serious names for this type of pollination come to
> mind...
> open-selfed, cross-sibbed, self-crossed...you get the picture ;-)
> 
> Till next time...
> 
> Rock  jenaipas@netrover.com
> 
> 
> 
> 
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> Date: Sat, 10 Apr 1999 15:48:52 -0700
> From: "Judy Stallcop" <stallcop@medford.net>
> Subject: Re: Australian Giant Pumpkin & Vegetable Competiti
> 
> THANKS!!!!!
> 
>     Thank you everyone for you help.  
> Judy
> 
> 
> 
> 
> - ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: Harold Eddleman Ph.D. <indbio@disknet.com>
> To: <pumpkins@mallorn.com>
> Sent: Saturday, April 10, 1999 12:24 PM
> Subject: Re: Australian Giant Pumpkin & Vegetable Competiti
> 
> 
> > pumpkins@mallorn.com wrote:
> > > 
> > > Hello, can someone translate the kgs into pounds please???????
> > > 
> > > Judy
> > 2.2 x kg = american pounds
> > 
> > -- 
> > Harold Eddleman Ph.D. Microbiologist.
> i*@disknet.com 
> > Location: Palmyra IN USA; 36 kilometers west of Louisville, Kentucky
> > http://www.disknet.com/indiana_biolab
> > 
> > 
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> Date: Sat, 10 Apr 1999 18:58:05 EDT
> From: LIpumpkin@aol.com
> Subject: Re: Parentages
> 
> Hey Rock-I thought you grew a 1200 lber in 
> 1999?.................................G
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> Date: Sat, 10 Apr 1999 19:14:03 -0400
> From: "Rock Rivard" <jenaipas@netrover.com>
> Subject: Re: Parentages
> 
> You got your dbase mixed up Glenn, the 1200 lber was the one I culled
> ;-)
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> À : pumpkins@mallorn.com <pumpkins@mallorn.com>
> Date : samedi, avril 10, 1999 19:10
> Objet : Re: Parentages
> 
> 
> >Hey Rock-I thought you grew a 1200 lber in
> >1999?.................................G
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> Date: Sat, 10 Apr 1999 17:57:23 -0700
> From: "Daniel Barnett" <dbarnett@cts.com>
> Subject: Southern California Planting Times?
> 
> I live in San Diego County and was wondering when I should plant. Last
> year
> I planted July 4th and my pumpkins wilted away with 20 days to spare
> before
> Halloween. I grew 7 pumpkins off 3 plants that were all 120+. Should I
> plant
> early? Summer temps can easily hover around 90-95 degrees with some
> spells
> into the 105+ plus range. We live inland from the coast.
> 
> Sincerely,
> 
> Dan
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> Date: Sat, 10 Apr 1999 14:13:57 -0700
> From: "Harold Eddleman Ph.D." <indbio@disknet.com>
> Subject: Re: Parentages
> 
> pumpkins@mallorn.com wrote:
> Rock wrote:
> > 
> > Very often, a grower will use pollen from several male to mate 1
> female. If
> > the male flowers come from a different plant than that of the
> female, this
> > is obviuosly a cross. If using multiple male flowers (from the same
> plant as
> > the female) to pollinate, what happens to the genes?
> ** Until shown otherwise we would assume all the pollen grains have
> equal chance to grow a pollen tube down the stigma and fertilize an
> egg.
> However, this being biology, it seems likely one pollen would be a
> little faster than pollen from the other males. [I have no facts]. 
> > Are the male flowers from a same plant genetically different?
>   On average, they should all be equivalent. But if the males flowers
> we
> not covered, I always worry that bees may have brought in wild pollen.
> I
> always cover my male flowers.
> > Should this type of pollination be note?
>   If one wants good records, yes. If one is using pollen from several
> lines, that is semi-open pollination. When I am sibbing, I use pollen
> from the best sibs available, I do not use pollen from the weak
> plants. 
> > 
> > A few not so serious names for this type of pollination come to
> mind...
> > open-selfed, cross-sibbed, self-crossed...you get the picture?
>   We can get lots of ideas and think about it. I have attended a few
> meetings of university breeders: blueberry, cowpeas, green beans,
> tomato, but I did not think to ask any of these questions. I think
> they
> use less pedigree data and more selection because they have about 100
> to
> 300 times as many plants to select from. 
>   Sweetpotato breeding is really strange. Few flowers make seeds and
> they do not attempt any hand crosses. They plant several kinds of
> sweetpotato in a "polynursery" and let insects do the crosses. If any
> seeds are found, they are planted and the breeder looks for good
> potatoes. 
> - -- 
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> Location: Palmyra IN USA; 36 kilometers west of Louisville, Kentucky
> http://www.disknet.com/indiana_biolab
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> Date: Sun, 11 Apr 1999 14:06:29 +1200
> From: John Sargeant <John.sargeant@STDC.govt.nz>
> Subject: Dolly update - 2.05 pm
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> Dolly still rules but Hawera Primary School have a good second.
> 
> We have 86 pumpkins in so far and about another hour to go.
> 
> http://www.hawera.net.nz/index1.html
> Have a 'Parky'day
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> Date: Sat, 10 Apr 1999 19:24:13 -0700
> From: "Mike Stephenson" <beacon@teleport.com>
> Subject: Re:1996 Geerts 946.5 Auction
> 
> Can we expect a closing hours update?
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> Date: Sat, 10 Apr 1999 23:10:02 -0400
> From: "Wayne Kennedy" <waynekennedy@sprint.ca>
> Subject: Re-IPGA Auction
> 
> Does anyone know what happened to Brad and the
> Auction.............Wayne
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> Date: Sat, 10 Apr 1999 23:04:40 EDT
> From: Brad2julie@aol.com
> Subject: IPGA SEED AUCTION - DAY 10 GRAND FINALE
> 
> Hello everyone,
>                         First I would like to say I am sorry for the
> delay in 
> the auction the past couple of days.  I ended up leaving town a day
> sooner 
> than expected.  Second, I would like to congratulate Shaun from 
> Polaris@wolfnet.com for winning day 9 with a bid of $32.  Third,  I
> would 
> like to thank everyone for their participation in this auction.  It
> must was 
> more of a success than I ever imagined it would be.  And last but
> certainly 
> not least (as promised by my sister-in-law who was so kind to send you
> an 
> e-mail while I was out of town)  Day10 and the Ciliberto 697 !!
> Bidding for 
> last day(s) auction will start immediately and end Monday at midnight.
> 
> Remember to submit all bids privately to Brad2Julie@aol.com
> 
> Here is the list:(bid on the seeds as a group)
> 
> 1) Ciliberto 697
> 2) Mettler 987
> 3) Mettler 865
> 4) Shymanski 771
> 5) Holland 700+ ( Holland 827 x Holland 879)
> 
> God Bless
> 
> Brad Walters
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> Date: Sat, 10 Apr 1999 23:20:11 EDT
> From: Brad2julie@aol.com
> Subject: Re: IPGA SEED AUCTION - DAY 10 GRAND FINALE
> 
> Sorry about the type-O.  The Second seed should be a Mettler 974 not a
> 
> Mettler 987.
> 
> Sorry if this caused any confusion,
> 
> Brad
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> Date: Sat, 10 Apr 1999 23:25:53 EDT
> From: Brad2julie@aol.com
> Subject: Mettler 974 not Mettler 987: IPGA Auction
> 
> Attention Bidders:
> 
> The seed listed in the auction as a Mettler 987 is actually a Mettler
> 974.
> 
> Sorry for the error,
> 
> Brad
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> Date: Sat, 10 Apr 1999 21:48:06 -0700
> From: Ken & Charlotte Mitchell <twoturkey@juno.com>
> Subject: Re: Southern California Planting Times?
> 
> Daniel
> Here in Central Ca near Sacramento I tend to plant around the end of
> May.
>  In hot weather of greater than 100* you have to cool the plant via
> misters or other methods.  Heat definetely matures  the plant.  As for
> last year we had a couple days of 114*, which makes it  very
> challenging
> and stressfull.  Last year I managed a few 500 # ers, considering the
> climate, I think I did as best as possible.  The more year's you put
> in
> the better you get at handling situations.  Every year the weather
> changes, you just have to go with your gut feeling on dates.  Thats
> what
> make this sport so fun, the CHALLENGES.  You have to do the best job
> you
> can and hope for the best or move to a better location and San Diego
> would be  a hard to move from.
> Turkeyman
> 
> On Sat, 10 Apr 1999 17:57:23 -0700 "Daniel Barnett" <dbarnett@cts.com>
> writes:
> >I live in San Diego County and was wondering when I should plant.
> Last 
> >year
> >I planted July 4th and my pumpkins wilted away with 20 days to spare 
> >before
> >Halloween. I grew 7 pumpkins off 3 plants that were all 120+. Should
> I 
> >plant
> >early? Summer temps can easily hover around 90-95 degrees with some 
> >spells
> >into the 105+ plus range. We live inland from the coast.
> >
> >Sincerely,
> >
> >Dan
> >
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> Date: Sat, 10 Apr 1999 22:35:07 -0700
> From: rptroy <rptroy@earthlink.net>
> Subject: Re: Southern California Planting Times?
> 
> Dan,
> 
> Two miles from the beach for me here in L.A. County........Last year I
> planted
> first week in June and my pumpkins wanted to keep growing. I had to
> cut them by
> the first of Oct. to get them up north to the weigh off. This year I
> will be
> planting Third of Fourth week in May......I plant the seed directly in
> the
> ground.
> I use misters over head during hot weather and plenty of water on the
> ground
> under the plants. I build complete shade structures over the pumpkins
> so no sun
> hits them at all..........
> Like the Turkeyman says, Cooling is a must !  Shade Cloth over the
> entire plant
> is another way to go if you can afford it.....
> 
> Bob T.
> Torrance Ca....
> 
> Daniel Barnett wrote:
> 
> > I live in San Diego County and was wondering when I should plant.
> Last year
> > I planted July 4th and my pumpkins wilted away with 20 days to spare
> before
> > Halloween. I grew 7 pumpkins off 3 plants that were all 120+. Should
> I plant
> > early? Summer temps can easily hover around 90-95 degrees with some
> spells
> > into the 105+ plus range. We live inland from the coast.
> >
> > Sincerely,
> >
> > Dan
> >
> >
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