RE: Plant Nutrients
- Subject: RE: Plant Nutrients
- From: &* H* <s*@insmgt.com>
- Date: Wed, 20 Aug 2008 17:09:02 -0400
I have read that iron chlorosis can be treated foliarly or through drip.
However results seem to be delayed and incomplete. The best method is
preventative using ferric and sulfur treatments to the soil in fall or early
spring. In addition, high acidity in the soil will compound iron chlorosis.
You seem to be the type of fellow that would test soil for PH so we may rule
that out. One other interesting thing I came across was results using
mixtures of plain old dish soap in addition to iron treatments. I'll look
into the chemistry on that later as this was a general claim and not a pure
scientific study.
P.S. Man is this a frustrating year for gardening. Global Warming?!
Steve Haberman
Insurance Management
959 E 4th St.
Marion, IN 45952
Cell: (574) 551-5601
Email: shaberman@insmgt.com
Fax: (765) 664-0761
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-pumpkins@hort.net [o*@hort.net] On Behalf Of
kasprick@gra.midco.net
Sent: Monday, August 18, 2008 11:34 AM
To: pumpkins@hort.net
Subject: Plant Nutrients
Thanks Steve...
Here is a good plant nutrition question for anyone out there... The problem
I typically run into with my pumpkins, and my garden in general, is iron
chlorosis occurs early in the season when the temperatures are a little cool
for good plant growth. The leaves yellow between the veins on a couple of
the early leaves and the overall growth is slow until the season warms up
and then the plant starts growing and everything looks great. In the mean
time the yellow leaves just are unsightly for a while, this year stretched
this out longer than normal. Has anyone applied iron either foliar or drip
irrigated that solves this issue? I have applied some and don't see a
response very often, but wanted to know what other people may have come
across. The soil test iron is high, but just unavailable in the cool spring
season.
Quoting Steve Haberman <shaberman@insmgt.com>:
> Correct Shawn. Too much Nitrogen causes the plant to cast of N
> particles in a process called guttation. This dehydrates the plant
> hence yellowing then browning of the leaves. Therefore, we can say
> that yellowing is a secondary result of too much N. It has been awhile
> since I received my Biology degree fom Colorado State University. Glad you
corrected me.
>
>
> Steve Haberman
> Insurance Management
> 959 E 4th St.
> Marion, IN 45952
> Cell: (574) 551-5601
> Email: shaberman@insmgt.com
> Fax: (765) 664-0761
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: owner-pumpkins@hort.net [o*@hort.net] On
> Behalf Of Shawn Kasprick
> Sent: Sunday, August 17, 2008 8:05 PM
> To: pumpkins@hort.net
> Subject: RE: vine burial
>
> Chlorosis (yellowing) of the leaves can be a number of different
causes...if
> the new leaves are yellow it may be sulfur, if the old leaves are
> turning yellow then it is usually nitrogen. If the yellowing makes
> the leaves look striped (either in between the leaf veins or the veins
> themselves) then it may either be zinc or iron... There can be others
> that make this problem occur, but most likely it is one of these culprits.
>
> Depending on how much water you have been giving your pumpkins they
> may
just
> have too much water...and this could cause a nitrogen deficiency.
>
> Too much nitrogen does not cause a plant to yellow...sorry to jump on
> this one Steve. To much fertilizer, nitrogen in particular, will
> cause
excessive
> vine growth and delay the maturity of the plant. Besides too much
> fertilizer will also force the plant to use more water, usually
> because of the excessive vines.
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: owner-pumpkins@hort.net [o*@hort.net] On
> Behalf Of Steve Haberman
> Sent: Saturday, August 16, 2008 12:59 PM
> To: pumpkins@hort.net
> Subject: RE: vine burial
>
> Too much water or too much N can cause yellowing. It is hard not to
> want to pump both to your plants. I would guess too much fertilizer.
>
>
> Steve Haberman
> Insurance Management
> 959 E 4th St.
> Marion, IN 45952
> Cell: (574) 551-5601
> Email: shaberman@insmgt.com
> Fax: (765) 664-0761
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: owner-pumpkins@hort.net [o*@hort.net] On
> Behalf Of Bridgette Antoinette Tojek
> Sent: Saturday, August 16, 2008 1:13 PM
> To: pumpkins@hort.net
> Subject: Re: vine burial
>
> Also, some of the leaves on a vone, not the vine with my big fruit on
> it, but another primary vine has leaves that have started turning
> yellow. What nutrient in excess or defeciency cause yellowing of the
> leaves? Thanks \Bridgette
>
> On Sat, Aug 16, 2008 at 1:00 PM, Bridgette Antoinette Tojek
> <honeybempowered@gmail.com> wrote:
>> What exactly does pinch mean? Do I just snap the end off? Or do I
>> bend the end? My concern is that the integrity of the vine will be
>> compromised and allow bacteria or virus deposition into the opening
>> in the vine where the hole will be from pinching it. That was my
>> reasoning for just removing the blossoms from the female fruit
>> instead of removing the fruit itself- a hole was there.
>> Wow-the tertiaries are still growing? Amazing are these beasts of the
>> giant pumpkin world-
>>
>> On Sat, Aug 16, 2008 at 12:03 AM, don young <bigpumpkin@mchsi.com> wrote:
>>> burrying tertiaery vines will not stop them they will grow up from
>>> under dirt
>>> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Bridgette Antoinette Tojek"
>>> <honeybempowered@gmail.com>
>>> To: <pumpkins@hort.net>
>>> Sent: Friday, August 15, 2008 10:30 PM
>>> Subject: vine burial
>>>
>>>
>>>> A few days ago I buried the secondary and tertiary vines of my Giant.
>>>> Now am I supposed to bury the end of the primary vine? I never
>>>> pinched and buried, I just buried the others. That was the first
>>>> night the pumpkin had no growth- I measure daily, not weekly. What
>>>> I did to the primary vine was removed all the female blossoms.
>>>> There were quite a few. The vine grew another foot and added a new
>>>> female with fruit. I culled that fruit and once again, the primary
>>>> vine grew another foot and added yet a new female. I do not want
>>>> all this energy to be diverted this way. Should I bury the primary
>>>> vine as well? It is currently 23 ft long and the fruit is 8 ft from
>>>> the base/
> mound.
>>>> Please advise
>>>> Bridgette
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