RE: Creeping Death

Try this Chad,
http://aggie.horticulture.tamu.edu/publications/cucurbitproblemsolver/  I
think you can find the symptoms here and associated condition. At least you
can rule out anything like fungi or mildew. The Upper Midwest has had a real
problem with powdery mildew and other such conditions. Hope this helps.
Steve

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From: owner-pumpkins@hort.net [o*@hort.net] On Behalf Of
Chad A. Weaver
Sent: Tuesday, August 18, 2009 9:38 AM
To: pumpkins@hort.net
Subject: Re: Creeping Death

I buy the aphids theory.  I actually had the bug I described and a smaller
green version.  I thought it was maybe a baby bug of the big bug.  After
googling up some aphid images, I would say that's what I've got.  From what
I've read aphids shouldn't really be causing as much damage as I'm seeing.
Maybe I'm wrong, maybe there's more.  Any suggestions other than different
pesticides to eliminate the aphid issue?

Chad Weaver
Hutsonville, IL

On Mon, Aug 17, 2009 at 9:53 PM, Ron Hoffman <rdhoffman@wyoming.com> wrote:

>  Could they be aphids?
>
> Chad A. Weaver wrote:
>
>  News from the front lines.  I finally was able to do the white paper
test.
>  I did get several of one kind of critter to come off of the leaf.  They
>  don't appear to be spider mites, but more of a beetle.  I brought some
in,
>  froze them, then put them under the microscope.  Appear to be some sort
of
>  beetle with very long back legs, not unlike a camel cricket.  They are
>  black, about 1 mm wide and 2 mm long.  I certainly see the benefits of
>  alternating pesticides!  After researching spider mites a bit and there
is
>  some leaf damage that appears to be consistent that I hadn't noticed
>  before.  Almost like a speckled browning.  Any thoughts or suggestions
> would
>  be appreciated.  I mentioned to my wife that Russ had suggested they may
> be
>  "smothered with love" and she certainly subscribed to that theory!!  I
> have
>  a couple more questions regarding seeds and watering, but will ask them
>  after I get this issue cleared up.
>
>  Thanks for all of the replies!
>
>  Chad Weaver
>  Hutsonville, IL
>
>  On Mon, Aug 17, 2009 at 8:08 PM, Jason Thomas
<j.endlesstrail@gmail.com>
>  wrote:
>
>    Russ,
>
>    Thank you for the information. Is this the type of tubing you are
>    talking about?..
>
>
>
http://www.dripirrigation.com/drip_irrigation_info.php?cPath=121_107&product
s   _id=284    <
>
http://www.dripirrigation.com/drip_irrigation_info.php?cPath=121_107&product
s%0A_id=284
> >
>     On Mon, Aug 17, 2009 at 5:38 PM, Russ Stokes    <rstokes@wi.rr.com>
>   wrote:
>
>      Jason,
>
>      The drip tubing I use is 1/2" dia. with self compensating drip built
> into
>      the tubing.  I pretty well put my whole garden into this system.  It
> was
>      material that I used when I was doing a little truck farming on the
> side.
>
>    It
>
>      really works out well.
>
>      I don't recommend the recycled rubber soaker hoses.  I have used them
> in
>
>    the
>
>      past and have found them to be very unreliable.  The drippers are
> spaced
>      about 15" apart and the tubing is spaced about the same.  What I have
> is
>      basically a mat of tubing under the plants.  Because the output is
> very
>
>    low,
>
>      watering from a garden hose hooked up is no problem. I also have a
>
>    dosmatic
>
>      injector, so I can mix up fertilizer and inject the solution into the
>      system.  We have had a pretty cool summer here in Wisconsin, I am not
>
>    sure
>
>      if I was growing where it is hot and dry that my system alone would
>
>    suffice.
>
>      I think what would really work out well is to have the underground
> system
>      and a mist system that would come on when it got quite warm.  Then
you
>
>    would
>
>      have the best of both worlds.
>
>      Russ
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