If you misplaced a email, don't forget about using the Pumpkin Mailing list archive http://www.mallorn.com/lists select the pumpkins link and then any month you want The subject URL is http://www.eskimo.com/~mcalpin/rem.htm Now that my pumpkin blew up at the stem, I will sign off for the year. Bye Duncan Delete I will read about you on the archive. Duncan McAlpine