Re: IL update
- To: pumpkins@mallorn.com
- Subject: Re: IL update
- From: "* P* M* <t*@hotmail.com>
- Date: Tue, 10 Aug 1999 22:14:46 PDT
My only advice to you, which you will most likely not like it to just
grow one or two plants and baby the snot out of them. Inspect daily and
remove borers daily along with spraying
>From: mikem@i-d-t.com (Mike Mott)
>Reply-To: pumpkins@mallorn.com
>To: "Pumpkin Digest" <pumpkins@mallorn.com>
>Subject: IL update
>Date: Tue, 10 Aug 1999 14:05:55 -0500
>
>Hi all,
>
>well, sad to say, but the race is over for me for 1999. My last remaining
>POV succumbed to those pesky SVBs over the weekend. These things are
>brutal! I have been applying Ortho orchard spray (Methoxyclor, malathion &
>Captan mix) as listed at 5 day intervals to try and slow them to no avail.
>They just steadily progressed right down the main until they finally nailed
>the side vine my 51" Dill 881 selfed inhabited. It stopped growing on day
>3, and started spotting on day 6 after infestation.
>
>My "failure" theories are (in no particular order):
>the weekly 1" rains we have been getting have washed the insecticide off.
>I
>always suspected this to be true, and have no proof either way, but in the
>interests of not overspraying, I adopted a philosophy that some residual
>would remain on the vine after the rains. Most likely a costly newbie
>mistake. The alternative however is to spray several times a week (I know
>our weather has been a lot better than several growers on the list, so I'm
>not complaining)after the relatively heavy showers, and I really don't want
>to do that.
>
>The Orchard spray is not effective for SVBs. They are not specifically
>listed, but I thought that the combo of methoxyclor & Malathion would
>really
>do the trick. Plus, it's so convenient to make 1 spray pass with the
>(apparently false) peace of mind that you're getting the nasty bugs and the
>fungus all at once.
>
>My plans of attack for next year, although not fully mature ideas are:
>
>Monitor the list for others "effective" SVB strategies. I have an idea to
>run a separate main from my existing misting system, with the mini mister
>heads strategically placed along the main under the leaf canopy at ground
>level. Then through the use of an injector, I could apply insecticide to
>ground, leaf undersides, and vines as often as needed. This of course will
>only work for the house garden, as my remote patch has to have water pumped
>and has no misting system.
>
>I'm going to do further research into systemics (my father is a farmer w/
>restricted use license), and more research on Bt. I have seen it, but have
>no working knowledge of how it is applied, duration, effectiveness, etc.
>
>Being a new grower, I have no idea whether weather or climatic factors
>affect these nasties, or whether the problem will be this severe every
>year.
>It's pretty disheartening to see 7 healthy plants progressively go down to
>the same problem, with no power to intervene.
>
>If I had it to do over, I'd try other flavors of insecticide and probably
>increase my application frequency. Hindsight of course is 20-20 and it has
>been an educational experience. I'll probably remove the plants this
>weekend, till and get some green manure sowed.
>
>At least I won't have to compress all of that manure spreading in to
>October
><g>.
>
>Thanks everyone for your contributions to the list. I'll see you IL
>Growers
>in Morton on 10/2.
>
>Let's put our heads together and devise some effective management of the
>SVB
>devil! Please if you have effective methods, share them with the rest of
>us.
>
>l8r,
>
>Mike Mott
>Champaign, IL
>
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