Re: Which plants should I cross ? ?

Wim:

From 9 different seeds you can select a pair between
9 x 8 = 72 possible pairs, considering too the location
for each plant; i.e., in the couple Kincaid 380 & Maston 570
there are still two options (to decide the relative placement
of the pair of plants).

If you want to grow 3 plants, you will have 72 x 7 = 504 options to
select from, including the location for each plant.

Now, if you plan to cultivate 4 plants, you must select from
504 x 6 =3,024 options, including the placement for each plant.

In the average, it means to analyze 25 options daily, during the
next four months!! Hence, it is a good idea to ask the list to reduce
the number of options...

There are a resemblance between a chess grand master and a pumpkin
heavy hitter, considering the ability to choose the right movement
from a immense amount of possible ones in a very short period of time.
Simply, if an experienced grower wants to choose 4 seeds from a set
of 100 different seeds, the number of combinations (quartets) he must
consider is almost 100 millions of choices, including the relative
placement of the four plants,

The craziness: how many options there exist if a grower wants to choose
6 seeds from a set of 100 different seeds? Answer: 858,277,728,000 options.
(The product  100 x 99 x 98 x 97 x 96 x 95)

I think the obsession of this addictive hobby is in the seed selection
process, a conscious or subconcious process.

Wim: First suggested choice, 715 Goodpasture with 656 Bhaskaran...

Meanwhile... Merry Xmas for all the pumpkin growers!! Don't forget to include
in your menu a pumpkin pie or a pumpkin candy!!

Miguel Ibarra

At 07:50 AM 12/17/00 +0100, you wrote:
>Hi all,
>
>First of all, I would like to thank all the people
>who mailed me pumpkin seeds over the last few weeks.
>Their names are mentioned in the list below.
>
>I was really impressed by the number of replies and seeds which
>I got by simply asking for it on this mailing list.
>
>This belgian pumpkin lover owes you all !!
>
>Now this question appears : which plants should I cross to have
>the best chance for a big one ?? Below you see the list of seeds that
>I have......Of course, I hope I can make them all germinate, grow and
>give flowers, but then what ?? So, if YOU would have the same kind of
>seeds I have, which ones would YOU cross ??
>
>This is the list:
>
>  
>*KINCAID 380 (MOMBERT 749 SELF-POLLINATED) 
>
>*YOUNG 368 (LLOYD 935 X LLOYD 935)
>
>*YOUNG 218 (LLOYD 935 X LLOYD 935)
>
>*MIYAMOTO 250 (UOW) (UNKNOWN HIERARCHY - SEEDS FROM CATALOG) 
>
>*HANNEMANN 329 (LLOYD 909.5(F) X MCINTYRE 932(M))
>
>*BHASKARAN 656 (PATRICK 760 X CHECKON 815)
>
>*BRANDT 403 (UOW) (CREUZIGER 772 X PATRICK 760)
>
>*GOODPASTURE 715 (HESTER 850.5 SELF-POLLINATED) 
>
>*MASTON 570 (GREER 1006 X STELTS 801.5)
>
>This last one didn't arrive yet, but John Maston should have received a
bubble pack by now....:-))
>
>Thanks in advance for all suggestions, and thanks again for the seeds !!!
>
>By the way : Merry Christmas and a happy 2001 to all of you ! 
>
>Greetings from Belgium,
>
>Wim Van Loock
>
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><DIV><FONT face="Comic Sans MS">Hi all,</FONT></DIV>
><DIV><FONT face="Comic Sans MS"></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
><DIV><FONT face="Comic Sans MS">First of all, I would like to thank all the 
>people</FONT></DIV>
><DIV><FONT face="Comic Sans MS">who mailed me pumpkin seeds over the last few 
>weeks.</FONT></DIV>
><DIV><FONT face="Comic Sans MS">Their names are mentioned in the list 
>below.</FONT></DIV>
><DIV><FONT face="Comic Sans MS"></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
><DIV><FONT face="Comic Sans MS">I was really impressed by the number of
replies 
>and&nbsp;seeds which</FONT></DIV>
><DIV><FONT face="Comic Sans MS">I got by simply asking for it on this mailing 
>list.</FONT></DIV>
><DIV><FONT face="Comic Sans MS"></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
><DIV><FONT face="Comic Sans MS">This belgian pumpkin lover owes you all 
>!!</FONT></DIV>
><DIV><FONT face="Comic Sans MS"></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
><DIV><FONT face="Comic Sans MS">Now this question appears : which plants
should 
>I cross to have</FONT></DIV>
><DIV><FONT face="Comic Sans MS">the best chance for a big one ?? Below you see 
>the list of seeds that</FONT></DIV>
><DIV><FONT face="Comic Sans MS">I have......Of course, I hope I can make them 
>all germinate, grow and</FONT></DIV>
><DIV><FONT face="Comic Sans MS">give flowers, but then what ?? So, 
>if&nbsp;<STRONG>YOU</STRONG> would have the same kind of</FONT></DIV>
><DIV><FONT face="Comic Sans MS">seeds I have, which ones 
>would&nbsp;<STRONG>YOU</STRONG> cross ??</FONT></DIV>
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><DIV><FONT face="Comic Sans MS">This is the list:</FONT></DIV>
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>size=3>*<STRONG><U>BHASKARAN 656</U></STRONG> (PATRICK 760 X CHECKON 
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>style="mso-spacerun: yes"><FONT size=3>*<STRONG><U>MASTON 570</U></STRONG> 
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>style="mso-spacerun: yes"></SPAN></SPAN><FONT face="Comic Sans MS">This
last one 
>didn't arrive yet, but John Maston should have </FONT><FONT 
>face="Comic Sans MS">received a bubble pack by now....:-))</FONT></P>
><P class=MsoNormal><FONT face="Comic Sans MS">Thanks in advance for all 
>suggestions, and&nbsp;thanks again for the seeds !!!</FONT></P>
><P class=MsoNormal><FONT face="Comic Sans MS">By the way : Merry Christmas
and a 
>happy 2001 to all of you ! </FONT></P>
><P class=MsoNormal><FONT face="Comic Sans MS">Greetings from
Belgium,</FONT></P>
><P class=MsoNormal><FONT face="Comic Sans MS">Wim Van 
>Loock</FONT></P></DIV></FONT></DIV></BODY></HTML>
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