Re: green
Beth,
I agree with you and eventually I believe they'll have to reevaluate
decisions based on some of the facts mentioned by you and others recently.
Thanks. Don
----- Original Message -----
From: "Smithhisler, Paul" <Paul.Smithhisler@dnr.state.oh.us>
To: <pumpkins@hort.net>
Sent: Friday, February 21, 2003 7:32 AM
Subject: RE: green
> Bravo Beth...I couldn't agree more. I'm sure there are many growers who
> would agree with you. These are anyone who has grown a true squash and
> anyone who has had a huge pumpkin "disqualified" from the big prize money
by
> the judges totally opinion based decisions (I'm sorry, even the grid
system
> is way too unscientific and influenced by biases.) The ones who would
> disagree are anyone who has not been affected by this ruling or has been
> moved up a space because the pumpkin before them was ruled a squash.
>
> Anyone who disagrees, before you reply, go through the AGGC and look at
> squash pictures and tell me how many OBVIOUS pumpkins you see!
>
> -Gus
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Beth Rado [r*@hotmail.com]
> Sent: Thursday, February 20, 2003 11:53 AM
> To: pumpkins@hort.net
> Subject: Re: green
>
> Ive tried to stay out of the green/orange debate, and personally, I dont
> care a lot which way weighoff sites choose to judge color.
>
> But from a genetic perspective, I think its clear that there are two
> different greens. One case is a fruit with orange skin which gets
greenish
> over time, though often part of the surface area stays orange or yellow.
> One year I had a fruit covered with two small blankets one dark, dark
> blue, the other white. The side under the dark blanket was smooth and
> orange. There was a sharp, straight dividing line which corresponded
> exactly to the edge of the dark blanket, then the side under the white
> blanket had more cantalouping, and even the smoother parts of the skin
> turned quite green.
>
> This past year I had the pleasure of growing my first true squash. It was
a
>
> beauty. From the beginning it was green, green, green. By the end of
the
> season, it too had some cantalouping and roughness on the skin. But the
> base color of this fruit was unquestionably beautiful blue-green. No
> orange anywhere.
>
> My belief is that the base orange fruits with greening toward maturity are
> greatly influenced, if not completely controlled by environment. Is there
a
>
> genetic component to the schizoid two-color fruits? Perhaps. But the
true
> blue-green squash is clearly genetic, and would be much easier to identify
> genetically and grow intentionally. One could not always trust a squash
> ruling for making crosses, however. It would be necessary to confirm that
> the base color of a fruit being considered for a cross was truly
blue-green
> and that it wasnt a late crossover.
>
> Beth
>
>
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