RE: Top Proven Seeds For 2003

Another promising 801.5 x 935 Lloyd cross is the 629 Holland, I would like
to plant it if I had enough room.

Carlos


----- Original Message -----
From: vince <anaid_tecuod@yahoo.com>
To: <pumpkins@hort.net>
Sent: Tuesday, February 25, 2003 2:10 AM
Subject: Re: Top Proven Seeds For 2003


> The 935 Lloyd and the 801.5 Stelts really stand out as parent
> seeds.  Almost half of the 101 known 1,000+ pounders have one
> of  these two seeds on the maternal side and another dozen have
> one of these two on the paternal side.
>
> These two together would seem to be a match made in heaven!!
>
> It is interesting that there are NO 935(f) x 801.5(m) crosses
> out there that I could find.  I did find six 801.5(f) x 935(m)
> crosses but none of them have been widely planted.  The most
> promising two are the 963 Stucker 2002 (a beautiful pumpkin)
> and the 808 Kuhn 2000 which shows no offspring at all!
>
> I think it is a crime that no one has tried the 808 Kuhn
> especially since the pollinator plant was the mother to the
> 712.2 Kuhn one of the top producer seeds of all time!!!  What's
> up with that??
>
> If I had an 808 Kuhn, I'd plant it for reasons more than just
> curiosity.
>
> hint, hint....
>
> vince
>
>
> --- Cliff Warren <cliffrwarren@hotmail.com> wrote:
> > Vince,
> >
> > Thanks for this research!
> >
> > One point I might add is that of these top 5, three
> > were grown from the 935 Lloyd, and two from the 801.5
> > Stelts. And each of these, the 935 and 801.5, are seeds
> > that had some "inbreeding" (selfing, sibbing, cross
> > with the mother, etc.)... Lending more creedence to the
> > theory that you take a fairly pure line, THEN cross it,
> > then you might create a great seed. (This is the whole
> > F1/F2 hybrid thing I was trying to explain earlier...)
> >
> > Your point about how some seeds are heavily planted
> > (by top growers) and other are not is also something
> > that should not be ignored and is hard to factor in.
> >
> > Regards, Cliff
>
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