Re: Seed / cross ranking list



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From: Vickie Brock <brocfarm@pacific.net>
To: pumpkins@mallorn.com <pumpkins@mallorn.com>
Date: January 16, 2000 1:51 PM
Subject: Re: Seed / cross ranking list



That is correct. Male pollen for the current year will have no effect on the
size of the pumpkin that will be grown that year, the size of the pumpkin is
determined by the female plant already. The only effect will be the
following year when the genetics of the male pollinator will be in the
female plant.  Andrew

>>Sir:
>>
>>Thank you for your time and effort in this endeavor.  I did not get a
chance
>>to see the Hester 850.5; I DO know that it was 1st, Des Moines Weighoff,
had
>>a Mombertian shape, and weighed +6.33%.   FYI, the 1036 Kline '99 came
from
>>the Male 688.5  Kline X Female 968 Sproule.  Personally, I think a +%heavy
>>Mombert crossed with a contest winner in the 700 to 900 lb range would be
a
>>definite try for 2000.  If you look a the recent Schwartz fruit, the
weights
>>seem to be falling.  Based on advice so far, my #1 choice is 850.5 Hester
'99
>>X 688.5. Kline '98.  This Kline '98 was the Male that produced the Kline
>>1036. The other side also has good lines.   It is quite obvious on the
lines
>>charts that if one crosses, say, two seeds from the same plant or same
>>pumpkin, for the same year, the weights usually go down.
>>
>>How heavy was YOUR last pumpkin???
>>
>>This ranking thing will probably foster improvement in the overall growth
>>curve / seed lines.  Again, thanks for the  advice.  I tried to send
>>something like this the other day and I think it got lost before I
actually
>>sent it to you.  For some reason I cannot access the actual List.
However, I
>>am in Mallorn (The new list comments come into my email and I can navigate
>>from there).
>>
>>Take care
>>
>>Pumpkinist.
>>mmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm
>
>A very interesting observation and will take a closer look but at first
>impression I don't think the male pollen has any effect on the fruit that
>is before your eyes in the patch.  The genetic code is coming from the
>cross before.  AG are tricky everytime i think i see something there are 10
>examples that counter my thought so i feel like were kept in the dark many
>times.  Although it appears to be true with the Kline/Shcwarz i look at my
>606..which is a 449mar =804x990 crossed with the 559geerts =804x990 this
>year the 606 produced a 692 in a very difficult climate.  I then look at
>the 1009eaton which was a 946geerts sibbed with a sister seed ...need to
>look more but I really feel the male pollen has little effect on the fruit
>before you...and its effects won't show till the next
>generation..........let me here more of your thoughts.........MB
>
>
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