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Re: fertilizer toxcity (new answer at the bottom)

In a message dated 97-01-19 00:28:35 EST, brocfarm@pacific.net (Vickie J
Brock) writes:

<< ubj:	Re: fertilizer toxcity
 Date:	97-01-19 00:28:35 EST
 From:	brocfarm@pacific.net (Vickie J Brock)
 To:	GBPUMPKIN@aol.com
 CC:	pumpkins@athenet.net
 
 >In a message dated 97-01-18 16:32:52 EST, brocfarm@pacific.net (Vickie J
 >Brock) writes:
 >
 ><< Subj:        Re: fertilizer toxcity
 > Date:  97-01-18 16:32:52 EST
 > From:  brocfarm@pacific.net (Vickie J Brock)
 > To:    GBPUMPKIN@aol.com
 >
 > >In a message dated 97-01-18 14:46:57 EST, brocfarm@pacific.net (Vickie J
 > >Brock) writes:
 > >
 > ><< Subj:        fertilizer toxcity
 > > Date:  97-01-18 14:46:57 EST
 > > From:  brocfarm@pacific.net (Vickie J Brock)
 > > To:    pumpkins@athenet.net
 > >
 > > To anyone with an opinion on: What about build up of high levels of
 > > Calcium,Magesium,potassium etc..I was wondering if this is why some top
 > > growers all of sudden can't get those huge hummers.  I think that as the
 > > years go by the soil reaches optimum where everything is right in
availble
 > > form humus etc.. for optimum growth.  You have major success.  But
growing
 > > these monsters in the same place year after year has to deplete minerals
 >we
 > > don't even know about let alone the high levels  have to hinder the
 > > microbes and or soil life.  A fallow plot in rotation might keep  some
 > > sustainable action.
 > >
 > > I know I need to get life, bad case of pumpkins on the brain need beer.
 > >
 > >  >>
 > >
 > >That may be true, to try and avoid this problem I use large amounts of
 > >Compost as described in the article, (Compost Feeding), on the Pumpkin
Page
 > >(Dan's).  Just sent my soil out for testing, took the sample in the fall.
 > >
 > >George Brooks
 > >N. Tewksbury, MA USA
 >
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 > George you are right!  I am a  organic Truck farmer and I believe that
 > compost has the most readily available nutrients when it is in humus form.
 > Plus it increases the microbe activity. And firmily believe it builds a
 > healthier soil.  The problem I have with giants is they seem to be heavy
 > feeders and stop in the 6oo+ range. organic fertilers such as bloodmeal
and
 > bonemeal, kelpmeal  are very expensive.  So I have added up to 8lb. of
 > granular-16-16-16.  Aren't most the 900's grown with mostly chemical
fert.?
 > Do you use chemical fert.?
 >
 > Brock
 >
 >  >>
 >
 >Tough to tell why they stop, it can be genetic too.  I use Urea sparingly
and
 >Liquid Fish in the water I give it at the root zone.
 
 
 Do you think splits are genetic?  ARE the larger pumpkins adapting to the
 high levels of pushing.  Is the infamous 567 the classic example of a
 genetic adaptation. 5million guys using there own magic potions and the
 pumpkins refuse or mostly refuses to split.  Resistance to splitting a new
 trait to incorporate.
 I need a beer my head hurts.
  >>

Most Splits are genetic in my opinion.  Catastrophic Stem Split, (not fatal
in most cases), as shown in Don's book on my 553 is genetic and I believe
Dill Rings are too.  The Atlantic Giant Tractor Tire shape usually doesn’t
get Dill Rings, (rings running the opposite way from the normal ribs.)  Dill
Rings are internal splits.

George
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