Re: Patch


Rocky-et al.    For those that don't know, 24-D, when applied in temps above 85
degrees volatizes(evaporates) and becomes airborne, landing wherever the winds
take it.  There are documented cases in MD where misapplication of 24-D in this
manner have resulted in crop damage up to a quarter mile away!!    Be careful with
your lawn care applications!!! (but than again, who on the list would waste
precious time/money taking care of their lawn?)
Hope your patch fully recovers.  Hmmmm... stress early in the season helps push
pumpkin plant to produce world record pumpkin???  That'd be a great ending to
this, wouldn't it?

Bill Susa
Jefferson, MD
3rd yr,  275 uow

Lyle Rockwell wrote:

>  I am now leaning toward 2 thoeries, one being mosaic (95 percent sure),
> and the other being the following...
>
> Follow the time line..
>
> (Not quite sure of the date)
> My neighbor, whom has a broad leaf weed problem, went to the local agway
> and bought something to kill it, more than likely a 24D type weed
> killer.. I came home from work that day, and my plants were all drooped
> down (that was the day I worried about earlier in the year). I watered
> the dickens out of the plants, and it hopefully flushed it out, but
> obviously it didnt..
>
> Well, I worked on the patch for about 5 hours that night, in effort to
> try and save the patch and the 5 plants. While I was doing this, I
> decided to transplant some of my sunflowers from up by my deck, down to
> the patch, to use as a windbreak. Upon doing this, I saw underneath of
> my deck needed weeding, and remembering my nieghbor had this "special
> stuff" for this type weed, I borrowed it from him and used a little bit.
>
> Fast forward a day...... Pumpkins are starting to recover, slowly, and
> the sunflowers by the deck are drooping somewhat, but only thought this
> was due in part to the transplanting fo the others to the patch.
>
> The end result here is that the sunflowers in the patch which I moved
> later in the day from the deck area (100 ft away) to the patch are
> growing fine, no funky leaf problems at all. The ones by the deck where
> I sprayed are all messed up.. Bob Wells sent me this email, which made
> me recall this time line... Check it out..
>
> Hi rocky,
>   Sorry to here about your troubles, I've had some of my own this year I
> believe mine is due to Mosaic virus. Question; Did you or your neighbors
> use
> any board leaf killer on the lawns? I know 2-4D will move easily several
> hundred feet. I'm not any expect but is your copper level very high?
>   I find it hard to believe one application over or not of liquid
> fertilizer
> could do this.A 3.5 gal bucket in lue of a 5 gal. would increase the
> ratio
> by 30%. I've bunrt leaves at higher levels of fertilizer never anything
> like
> you have. Good Luck...Bob Wells
>
> ------------------------
>
> I guess I am reaching, but it is possible.. The tissue sample through
> the AG extension will do the most help... A soil sample as well...but I
> guess it is possible that when he sprayed it could have been semi windy,
> and the 24D may have been the cause, I want it to be this more so than
> mosaic, that is for sure..
>
> As for the growth right now, if it is new growth, it is funky leaves, if
> it is a secondary that was started before the day this all started, it
> still shoots out good growth... why would mosaic not affect the already
> established leaves and plant? I am glad I am not hand writing this, as I
> would be crying all over this paper and it would be illegible..
>
> It is probably mosaic, but I am giving thought to all possibilities. The
> one problem I have with mosaic is that I havent seen rarely a bug near
> my patch this year with Warrior T on the job.. The only other thought is
> that it is the bagged composted manure I bought from Lowes that could
> have been infected, as I didnt get to put my usual lamb manure on the
> patch with a job switch last fall..
>
> Larry Checkon wrote:
> >
> > Rocky,
> >
> > Very sorry about your patch. Those pics are enough so make a grown man weep.
> > I stronly suggest that you get a tissue sample sent in to PSU. You can get
> > a kit at the nearest Ag Ext. office. There is no charge. Good luck.
> >
> > Larry
>
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>
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