Re: pumpkins DIGEST V1 #24
Tad,
Try www.bigpumpkins.com
Good luck - grow'em big.
----- Original Message -----
From: "Tad Miller" <tmiller@gschq.com>
To: <pumpkins@mallorn.com>
Sent: Tuesday, July 06, 2004 9:49 AM
Subject: RE: pumpkins DIGEST V1 #24
> Tad here,
>
> I have been reading these imails and have been trying to keep up with the
language.
>
> Is there a web site that can explain what the Number and Names of these
pumpkins mean?
>
> Thanks
>
> Tad / pack 819
>
>
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: pumpkins DIGEST [p*@hort.net]
> Sent: Monday, July 05, 2004 1:01 AM
> To: pumpkins-digest@hort.net
> Subject: pumpkins DIGEST V1 #24
>
>
>
> pumpkins DIGEST Monday, July 5 2004 Volume 01 : Number
024
>
>
>
> In this issue:
>
> Re: Pollination
> Pollination
> RE: Pollination
> Re: Pollination
> THE BABY IS GETTING BIGGER
> Re: Pollination
>
> ----------------------------------------------------------------------
>
> Date: Sun, 4 Jul 2004 15:15:02 EDT
> From: Pumpkinpirate1@aol.com
> Subject: Re: Pollination
>
> Martin
> You opened up an interesting subject. I have never had a pumpkin roll
over
> on its stem on its own. I have put pumpkins on there stems to make them
into
> wagon wheels but have never seen it naturally.
> A few years ago Chris Gregory grew his 730 that was a wagon wheel along
> with a 600 EST he said it was due to the fact that he had not spent much
time in
> the patch when they were developing but as Bob Troy I will tell you we
enjoyed
> looking at those allot more then the regular pumpkins he had. I just like
the
> variations of looks on the pumpkins.
> Bob Troy a few years ago was growing a 801 Stelts and I went over and
saw
> the little plant that was WAY behind the rest and just a few weeks later
Bob
> called up and said it had blown apart at 525 lbs... I was in Shock it went
from
> Baseball size to a wagon wheel to BOOM in just weeks on a tinny plant.. Go
> figure...
>
> OK here is the Question for your growers that have seen allot of
pumpkins
> in your day what Shape is your favorite to look at?
> What is your favorite for vine maintenance?
> Favorite for color ??
>
> Ok that should get us going !!!!
> OH I have also grown pumpkins on inclines so that the Blossom was 4 inches
> higher then the stem and on the 703* that I tried it on it made the stem
stay
> right on the ground I never did any vine maintenance.. I like that !!
>
> So for shape my favorite to look at is the Wagon wheel with the stem
> straight down..
> Favorite stem position for vine maintenance is like my 703* and Bob Troys
> 797 high round wagon wheel with the stem right on the ground! If you want
picks
> of what I mean I can send them to you...
> And last favorite color ....... Man that is hard I REALLY LOVE THE GREEN
> ONES but Bob Troys 654 is my favorite pumpkin of ALL TIME !!!
>
> I will be setting at least two pumpkins for competition in my home patch
on
> there stems this year probably on my Mystery seed and my 345 Gregory.. You
> never know what is desirable! take care and I wish everyone a Happy and
Healthy
> Fourth of July !!!
>
> Kevin Smith
> Pumpkin Pirate ! ................Still waiting for Baby............
> Date: Sun, 04 Jul 2004 13:28:00 -0800
> From: "kathie morgan" <fishrap@earthlink.net>
> Subject: Pollination
>
> Kevin,
> Did you see the Future Farmer pumpkin grown last year, beautiful WW shape?
I asked the FF grower, and he said it rolled over on its stem, pushing the
stem into the ground. Right up to harvest, he said, he didn't know that he
had a sound pumpkin. He did, and what a figure! In a previous post, you
suggested pollinating everything on the main with the same male so as to
eliminate that one variable when culling time begins. I never thought of the
male as being so important that one would base a culling decision on it. Can
someone explain to me WHY it's important, unless you're growing seeds to
sell? Thanks! Kathie
> - --
>
>
> - ----------
> >From: Pumpkinpirate1@aol.com
> >To: pumpkins@hort.net
> >Subject: Re: Pollination
> >Date: Sun, Jul 4, 2004, 11:15 AM
> >
>
> > Martin
> > You opened up an interesting subject. I have never had a pumpkin roll
> > over on its stem on its own. I have put pumpkins on there stems to
> > make them into wagon wheels but have never seen it naturally.
> > A few years ago Chris Gregory grew his 730 that was a wagon wheel
> > along with a 600 EST he said it was due to the fact that he had not
> > spent much time
> in
> > the patch when they were developing but as Bob Troy I will tell you we
> > enjoyed looking at those allot more then the regular pumpkins he had.
> > I just like the variations of looks on the pumpkins.
> > Bob Troy a few years ago was growing a 801 Stelts and I went over
> > and saw the little plant that was WAY behind the rest and just a few
> > weeks later Bob called up and said it had blown apart at 525 lbs... I
> > was in Shock it went
> from
> > Baseball size to a wagon wheel to BOOM in just weeks on a tinny
> > plant.. Go figure...
> >
> > OK here is the Question for your growers that have seen allot of
> > pumpkins in your day what Shape is your favorite to look at? What is
> > your favorite for vine maintenance? Favorite for color ??
> >
> > Ok that should get us going !!!!
> > OH I have also grown pumpkins on inclines so that the Blossom was 4
> > inches higher then the stem and on the 703* that I tried it on it made
> > the stem stay right on the ground I never did any vine maintenance.. I
> > like that !!
> >
> > So for shape my favorite to look at is the Wagon wheel with the stem
> > straight down.. Favorite stem position for vine maintenance is like
> > my 703* and Bob Troys 797 high round wagon wheel with the stem right
> > on the ground! If you want
> picks
> > of what I mean I can send them to you...
> > And last favorite color ....... Man that is hard I REALLY LOVE THE
> > GREEN ONES but Bob Troys 654 is my favorite pumpkin of ALL TIME !!!
> >
> > I will be setting at least two pumpkins for competition in my home
> > patch on there stems this year probably on my Mystery seed and my 345
> > Gregory.. You never know what is desirable! take care and I wish
> > everyone a Happy and
> Healthy
> > Fourth of July !!!
> >
> > Kevin Smith
> > Pumpkin Pirate ! ................Still waiting for Baby............
> Date: Sun, 4 Jul 2004 16:33:40 -0400
> From: "Doug Adams" <onedude@bellsouth.net>
> Subject: RE: Pollination
>
> Kevin,
> I would like to see those pictures.
> Thanks,
> Doug
>
> - -----Original Message-----
> From: owner-pumpkins@hort.net [o*@hort.net]On Behalf Of
Pumpkinpirate1@aol.com
> Sent: Sunday, July 04, 2004 3:15 PM
> To: pumpkins@hort.net
> Subject: Re: Pollination
>
>
> Martin
> You opened up an interesting subject. I have never had a pumpkin roll
over on its stem on its own. I have put pumpkins on there stems to make them
into wagon wheels but have never seen it naturally.
> A few years ago Chris Gregory grew his 730 that was a wagon wheel along
with a 600 EST he said it was due to the fact that he had not spent much
time in the patch when they were developing but as Bob Troy I will tell you
we enjoyed looking at those allot more then the regular pumpkins he had. I
just like the variations of looks on the pumpkins.
> Bob Troy a few years ago was growing a 801 Stelts and I went over and
saw the little plant that was WAY behind the rest and just a few weeks later
Bob called up and said it had blown apart at 525 lbs... I was in Shock it
went from Baseball size to a wagon wheel to BOOM in just weeks on a tinny
plant.. Go figure...
>
> OK here is the Question for your growers that have seen allot of
pumpkins in your day what Shape is your favorite to look at? What is your
favorite for vine maintenance? Favorite for color ??
>
> Ok that should get us going !!!!
> OH I have also grown pumpkins on inclines so that the Blossom was 4 inches
higher then the stem and on the 703* that I tried it on it made the stem
stay right on the ground I never did any vine maintenance.. I like that !!
>
> So for shape my favorite to look at is the Wagon wheel with the stem
straight down.. Favorite stem position for vine maintenance is like my 703*
and Bob Troys 797 high round wagon wheel with the stem right on the ground!
If you want picks of what I mean I can send them to you...
> And last favorite color ....... Man that is hard I REALLY LOVE THE GREEN
ONES but Bob Troys 654 is my favorite pumpkin of ALL TIME !!!
>
> I will be setting at least two pumpkins for competition in my home patch
on there stems this year probably on my Mystery seed and my 345 Gregory..
You never know what is desirable! take care and I wish everyone a Happy and
Healthy Fourth of July !!!
>
> Kevin Smith
> Pumpkin Pirate ! ................Still waiting for Baby............
> Date: Sun, 4 Jul 2004 16:54:15 EDT
> From: Pumpkinpirate1@aol.com
> Subject: Re: Pollination
>
> Kathie
> You Wrote...
> In a previous post, you suggested pollinating everything on the main with
the same male so as to eliminate that one variable when culling time begins.
I never thought of the male as being so important that one would base a
culling decision on it. Can someone explain to me WHY it's important, unless
you're growing seeds to sell?
> Kathie come on you know this game as well as I do !!! I plan all winter
as
> to the pumpkins I am growing to fit around my crosses. if we didn't care
about
> the pollination then we would let everything just go open pollination !!
if
> you had been planning a pollination for the whole winter say you had a 935
> Lloyd and you crossed one female with the 865 Mettler, one with the 703
Smith* one
> with the 600.5 Gregory and one with the 895.5 Hester* just because you
didn't
> plan your pollination's well ahead of time. well now you have to decide
all
> the factors involved with choosing a pumpkin and OOPS you don't want a
chance
> to have a green offspring but it is growing fastest so there goes the
895.5,
> OOPS but the 703* is green also and it has best shape. now we are down
between
> the 600.5 and the 865 ... well the 865 will produce seeds that have a
Higher
> potential for people to grow if it turns out to be a big pumpkin since the
723
> and 845 are the same cross ... so I would want the 865 cross to remain
.....
> see what you have created ..... yes, a Mess !!! so simplify and enjoy what
we
> are doing !!! Got it !!! take care and have a wonderful season!
>
> Kevin Smith
> Squash Buckler !!! Still waiting !!!
> Date: Sun, 4 Jul 2004 22:31:48 +0100
> From: "DAVID ASMAN" <kingdavid1.uk@btopenworld.com>
> Subject: THE BABY IS GETTING BIGGER
>
> HI all from rainy UK (Southampton)
>
> Last monday I polinated a Reiss 534 x Colbert1043 thursday it was a golf
ball today it is a soccer ball and perfectly round.
>
> I have a Bhaskaran 756 which I hope to polinate with the Reiss, both of
these vines are really good and sturdy with leaves 25 inches wide and the
deapest green I have ever seen, if the weather gets warmer I will have great
hopes.
>
> David Asman
> Pumpkin Limey
> Date: Sun, 04 Jul 2004 21:06:39 -0800
> From: "kathie morgan" <fishrap@earthlink.net>
> Subject: Re: Pollination
>
> Kevin,
> Say I grow the 935 Lloyd, and I pollinate the first blossom w/ the 703
Smith, the second blossom w/ the 1335 Daletas, the third w/ the 1105 Stucker
and the 4th w/ the 943 Brock. If each of the sister blossoms is allowed to
live, very unlikely, so what if each of them is married to a different guy?
How likely is it that you'll be growing seeds from ANY of the four? If you
are selling your seeds (or planting only your own seeds and no one else's),
I can see how you'd want to control the characteristics within each of the
seeds. But if you are growing for competition, and swapping seeds like most
of us, why would you care whether the offspring of the #1 above, the 935
Lloyd/703 Smith cross, turned green? Still wondering. Soon to be Honorary
Aunt Kathie, the left handed wench
> - --
>
>
> - ----------
> >From: Pumpkinpirate1@aol.com
> >To: pumpkins@hort.net
> >Subject: Re: Pollination
> >Date: Sun, Jul 4, 2004, 12:54 PM
> >
>
> > now you have to decide all
> > the factors involved with choosing a pumpkin and OOPS you don't want a
> > chance to have a green offspring but it is growing fastest so there
> > goes the 895.5, OOPS but the 703* is green also and it has best shape.
> > now we are down between the 600.5 and the 865 ... well the 865 will
> > produce seeds that have a Higher potential for people to grow if it
> > turns out to be a big pumpkin since the 723 and 845 are the same cross
> > ... so I would want the 865 cross to remain
> End of pumpkins DIGEST V1 #24
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