RE: pumpkins DIGEST V1 #61
- Subject: RE: pumpkins DIGEST V1 #61
- From: R* B* <b*@hotmail.com>
- Date: Tue, 14 Jul 2009 22:43:25 -0500
OOp, Too late on the triazicide. I guess I won't be eating the punkins then,
just going after big ones.
Rich in St. Louis
> Date: Tue, 14 Jul 2009 03:01:08 -0400
> From: pumpkins-owner@hort.net
> To: pumpkins-digest@hort.net
> Subject: pumpkins DIGEST V1 #61
>
>
> pumpkins DIGEST Tuesday, July 14 2009 Volume 01 : Number
061
>
>
>
> In this issue:
>
> RE: pumpkins DIGEST V1 #59
> Re: pumpkins DIGEST V1 #59
> RE: pumpkins DIGEST V1 #59
>
> ----------------------------------------------------------------------
>
> Date: Mon, 13 Jul 2009 08:26:48 -0400
> From: "Steve Haberman" <shaberman@insmgt.com>
> Subject: RE: pumpkins DIGEST V1 #59
>
> I would not suggest using triazicide on pumpkins that are going to be
eaten.
> You mentioned sugar babies and wanted to let you know that the maker of
> triazicide does not recommend its use for edible squash and pumpkins. Just
> care about you people.
>
> Steve Haberman
>
>
> - -----Original Message-----
> From: owner-pumpkins@hort.net [o*@hort.net] On Behalf Of
> Diana Sigel
> Sent: Sunday, July 12, 2009 7:37 PM
> To: pumpkins@mallorn.com
> Subject: Re: pumpkins DIGEST V1 #59
>
> On this day I have dusted my remaining eight vines with Sevin, sprayed them
> well with malathion, and sprayed them with Triazicide. Not to mention the
> Imidacloprid. Every bug for 20 miles is dead except for the squash bugs.
> The squash bugs are dancing, singing, rolling in the stuff. They are
having
> some sort of orgy on my vines, chewing and doing other unmentionable things
> that result in more eggs and more damn squash bugs. Of the two new plants
I
> set out a couple of weeks ago, my husband cultivated one out, and this
> morning the squash bugs had appeared and killed the other one. Tonight I
> will put out boards, then go to the garden in the morning with a bucket of
> soapy water to try to drown some more of them that may collect under the
> boards. I collected about a cupful or more of bugs off one plant this
> morning. I'm so discouraged. I don't even have one pumpkin growing yet.
> The hailstorm three weeks ago set everything back, all the female flowers
> that were starting then disappeared, and they're just starting to appear
> again. This just may not be the year that I set a Kansas record after all.
> If anyone can give me some advice on the eradication or at least slow down
> of the squash bugs, I'd really appreciate it. Thanks.
>
> cheers,
> duchess of gladstone
>
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> Date: Mon, 13 Jul 2009 08:48:25 -0500
> From: Wendel D Smith/LAWRENCE/EXT/UTIA <wdsmith@utk.edu>
> Subject: Re: pumpkins DIGEST V1 #59
>
> Hi folks, one problem with squash bugs is they stay down under the vines
> (and anything else that will shelter them) most of the time, and a spray
> never hits them. Check vines IMMEDIATELY after a heavy rain, or make it
> happen yourself with a SOAKING overhead watering . A lot of them will come
> out on top of the leaves to dry (or respire!), where you may gleefully nail
> them with the powerful synthetic pyrethroid of your choice.
> Meanwhile, as a result of knee surgery and inattentiveness due to other
> bizarre happenings, my AG vines are toast! Luck to all! As Bill Northrup
> would say, "Grow 'em big and orange," Wendel
>
>
> Wendel Smith
> Extension Agent 1
> Horticulture/4-H
> Tennessee State University
> Lawrence County Cooperative Extension Service
> PO Box 100
> Lawrenceburg, TN 38464
> Phone 931-762-5506
> FAX 931-766-1589
> Date: Mon, 13 Jul 2009 18:40:25 -0500
> From: Richard Briggs <briggsrichard@hotmail.com>
> Subject: RE: pumpkins DIGEST V1 #59
>
> Hey again everyone,
>
> Thanks for all the great hints. I went out and got triazicide, imiqimod
sp?,
> and permethrin and blasted everything in sight.
>
> Hope it works.
>
>
>
> Rich Briggs in St. louis
>
>
>
>
>
> > Date: Sun, 12 Jul 2009 03:01:05 -0400
> > From: pumpkins-owner@hort.net
> > To: pumpkins-digest@hort.net
> > Subject: pumpkins DIGEST V1 #59
> >
> >
> > pumpkins DIGEST Sunday, July 12 2009 Volume 01 : Number 059
> >
> >
> >
> > In this issue:
> >
> > RE: pumpkins DIGEST V1 #58
> > Re: pumpkins DIGEST V1 #58
> > RE: pumpkins DIGEST V1 #58
> >
> > ----------------------------------------------------------------------
> >
> > Date: Sat, 11 Jul 2009 02:42:58 -0500
> > From: Richard Briggs <briggsrichard@hotmail.com>
> > Subject: RE: pumpkins DIGEST V1 #58
> >
> > Hi Again,
> >
> > Thanks for the thoughts Steve. I looked on the internet and didn't really
> see
> > any pictures that looked like what is going on with my pumkins BUT I was
> out
> > pruning and discovered some type of worm in one of the stems. Looks like
it
> > leaves the same gunk that corn worms leave on corn so I Sevin-ed them up
> > really good. Hope that works. It's just that it rained a few hours later
and
> I
> > may need to re-apply.
> > That brings up the question- What's you all's favorite pumkin pesticied??
> > Sevin- Malathione?? I'd love to hear personal experiences from any and
all
> > growers.
> > Thanks,
> >
> > Rich Briggs in St. Louis
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > > Date: Sat, 11 Jul 2009 03:01:04 -0400
> > > From: pumpkins-owner@hort.net
> > > To: pumpkins-digest@hort.net
> > > Subject: pumpkins DIGEST V1 #58
> > >
> > >
> > > pumpkins DIGEST Saturday, July 11 2009 Volume 01 : Number 058
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > In this issue:
> > >
> > > RE: pumpkins DIGEST V1 #57
> > > RE: pumpkins DIGEST V1 #57
> > >
> > > ----------------------------------------------------------------------
> > >
> > > Date: Fri, 10 Jul 2009 09:04:08 -0500
> > > From: Richard Briggs <briggsrichard@hotmail.com>
> > > Subject: RE: pumpkins DIGEST V1 #57
> > >
> > > Hey Folks,
> > >
> > > Little problem- I've got a couple of plants getting yellow at the main
> vine
> > > and the yellow is spreading out from the innermost leaves ->outward.
Then
> > the
> > > outer vines get healthy green looking again after a few feet. Am I over
> > > watering? Getting a fungus? I don't see any insects. The affected
leaves
> > get
> > > yellow, then brown around the edges and finally look like they might
die.
> > Wish
> > > I could include a picture.
> > >
> > > I have culled a bunch of prospects on secondaries and I'm thinking of
> > pruning
> > > all the secondaries back to 5-6 feet long. Is that okay? Any longer or
> > shorter
> > > on secondaries in your opinions????
> > >
> > > How much vine should I let grow beyond a pumpkin? Is it okay to cull
all
> > but
> > > the end ones so there is more main vine to nourish the pumpkin, Or
should
> I
> > > let a length of vine grow beyond a good prospect??
> > >
> > > Thanks for the advice folks. I just hope I didn't cull too many
already.
> > I've
> > > got 10 plants and have taken off about 15 "punklets."
> > >
> > > Any advice is truly appreciated.
> > >
> > > Rich Briggs in St. Louis
> > > Date: Fri, 10 Jul 2009 10:40:28 -0400
> > > From: "Steve Haberman" <shaberman@insmgt.com>
> > > Subject: RE: pumpkins DIGEST V1 #57
> > >
> > > I have the exact same thing going on. I cut back on the N hoping I just
> > > overfertilized. I watered a lot and it seems to be helping.
> > >
> > > Steve Haberman
> > >
> > >
> > > - -----Original Message-----
> > > From: owner-pumpkins@hort.net [o*@hort.net] On
Behalf
> Of
> > > Richard Briggs
> > > Sent: Friday, July 10, 2009 10:04 AM
> > > To: pumpkin
> > > Subject: RE: pumpkins DIGEST V1 #57
> > >
> > > Hey Folks,
> > >
> > > Little problem- I've got a couple of plants getting yellow at the main
> vine
> > > and the yellow is spreading out from the innermost leaves ->outward.
Then
> > > the outer vines get healthy green looking again after a few feet. Am I
> over
> > > watering? Getting a fungus? I don't see any insects. The affected
leaves
> > get
> > > yellow, then brown around the edges and finally look like they might
die.
> > > Wish I could include a picture.
> > >
> > > I have culled a bunch of prospects on secondaries and I'm thinking of
> > > pruning all the secondaries back to 5-6 feet long. Is that okay? Any
> longer
> > > or shorter on secondaries in your opinions????
> > >
> > > How much vine should I let grow beyond a pumpkin? Is it okay to cull
all
> > > but the end ones so there is more main vine to nourish the pumpkin, Or
> > > should I let a length of vine grow beyond a good prospect??
> > >
> > > Thanks for the advice folks. I just hope I didn't cull too many
already.
> > > I've got 10 plants and have taken off about 15 "punklets."
> > >
> > > Any advice is truly appreciated.
> > >
> > > Rich Briggs in St. Louis
> > >
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> > Date: Sat, 11 Jul 2009 06:28:07 -0400
> > From: Bart Toftness <toftness@mindspring.com>
> > Subject: Re: pumpkins DIGEST V1 #58
> >
> > Sounds like the squash vine bore moth (SVB). What your finding is the
> > larva. The moth lays single eggs on the vines which hatch and bore into
> > the vines where they destroy the insides and cause that vine to fail.
> > Sevin won't do much for them. The brown/orange stuff you see on the
> > vine is frass. It's their waste. It is at the entry hole so there will
> > be a larva in the vine near by. You can slice the vine open and remove
> > them but its better to prevent the entry first. Look for Triazicide
> > (sp) which can be found at Lowe's. Spray the vines to kill the svb moth
> > before they lay the eggs. It should also work for the squash bugs (aka
> > stink bugs) which lay groups of reddish brown eggs on the under sides of
> > the leaves.
> >
> > Bart
> >
> > Richard Briggs wrote:
> > > Hi Again,
> > >
> > > Thanks for the thoughts Steve. I looked on the internet and didn't
really
> see
> > > any pictures that looked like what is going on with my pumkins BUT I
was
> out
> > > pruning and discovered some type of worm in one of the stems. Looks
like
> it
> > > leaves the same gunk that corn worms leave on corn so I Sevin-ed them
up
> > > really good. Hope that works. It's just that it rained a few hours
later
> and I
> > > may need to re-apply.
> > > That brings up the question- What's you all's favorite pumkin
pesticied??
> > > Sevin- Malathione?? I'd love to hear personal experiences from any and
> all
> > > growers.
> > > Thanks,
> > >
> > > Rich Briggs in St. Louis
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >> Date: Sat, 11 Jul 2009 03:01:04 -0400
> > >> From: pumpkins-owner@hort.net
> > >> To: pumpkins-digest@hort.net
> > >> Subject: pumpkins DIGEST V1 #58
> > >>
> > >>
> > >> pumpkins DIGEST Saturday, July 11 2009 Volume 01 : Number 058
> > >>
> > >>
> > >>
> > >> In this issue:
> > >>
> > >> RE: pumpkins DIGEST V1 #57
> > >> RE: pumpkins DIGEST V1 #57
> > >>
> > >> ----------------------------------------------------------------------
> > >>
> > >> Date: Fri, 10 Jul 2009 09:04:08 -0500
> > >> From: Richard Briggs <briggsrichard@hotmail.com>
> > >> Subject: RE: pumpkins DIGEST V1 #57
> > >>
> > >> Hey Folks,
> > >>
> > >> Little problem- I've got a couple of plants getting yellow at the main
> vine
> > >> and the yellow is spreading out from the innermost leaves ->outward.
> Then
> > > the
> > >> outer vines get healthy green looking again after a few feet. Am I
over
> > >> watering? Getting a fungus? I don't see any insects. The affected
leaves
> > > get
> > >> yellow, then brown around the edges and finally look like they might
> die.
> > > Wish
> > >> I could include a picture.
> > >>
> > >> I have culled a bunch of prospects on secondaries and I'm thinking of
> > > pruning
> > >> all the secondaries back to 5-6 feet long. Is that okay? Any longer or
> > > shorter
> > >> on secondaries in your opinions????
> > >>
> > >> How much vine should I let grow beyond a pumpkin? Is it okay to cull
all
> > > but
> > >> the end ones so there is more main vine to nourish the pumpkin, Or
should
> I
> > >> let a length of vine grow beyond a good prospect??
> > >>
> > >> Thanks for the advice folks. I just hope I didn't cull too many
already.
> > > I've
> > >> got 10 plants and have taken off about 15 "punklets."
> > >>
> > >> Any advice is truly appreciated.
> > >>
> > >> Rich Briggs in St. Louis
> > >> Date: Fri, 10 Jul 2009 10:40:28 -0400
> > >> From: "Steve Haberman" <shaberman@insmgt.com>
> > >> Subject: RE: pumpkins DIGEST V1 #57
> > >>
> > >> I have the exact same thing going on. I cut back on the N hoping I
just
> > >> overfertilized. I watered a lot and it seems to be helping.
> > >>
> > >> Steve Haberman
> > >>
> > >>
> > >> - -----Original Message-----
> > >> From: owner-pumpkins@hort.net [o*@hort.net] On
Behalf
> Of
> > >> Richard Briggs
> > >> Sent: Friday, July 10, 2009 10:04 AM
> > >> To: pumpkin
> > >> Subject: RE: pumpkins DIGEST V1 #57
> > >>
> > >> Hey Folks,
> > >>
> > >> Little problem- I've got a couple of plants getting yellow at the main
> vine
> > >> and the yellow is spreading out from the innermost leaves ->outward.
> Then
> > >> the outer vines get healthy green looking again after a few feet. Am I
> over
> > >> watering? Getting a fungus? I don't see any insects. The affected
leaves
> > > get
> > >> yellow, then brown around the edges and finally look like they might
> die.
> > >> Wish I could include a picture.
> > >>
> > >> I have culled a bunch of prospects on secondaries and I'm thinking of
> > >> pruning all the secondaries back to 5-6 feet long. Is that okay? Any
> longer
> > >> or shorter on secondaries in your opinions????
> > >>
> > >> How much vine should I let grow beyond a pumpkin? Is it okay to cull
all
> > >> but the end ones so there is more main vine to nourish the pumpkin, Or
> > >> should I let a length of vine grow beyond a good prospect??
> > >>
> > >> Thanks for the advice folks. I just hope I didn't cull too many
already.
> > >> I've got 10 plants and have taken off about 15 "punklets."
> > >>
> > >> Any advice is truly appreciated.
> > >>
> > >> Rich Briggs in St. Louis
> > >>
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> > Date: Sat, 11 Jul 2009 09:07:03 -0400
> > From: "Steve Haberman" <shaberman@insmgt.com>
> > Subject: RE: pumpkins DIGEST V1 #58
> >
> > I agree Bart, SVB. They are the spawn of Satin. Hit the rest of your
plants
> > with Triazicide Richard. If you can prevent them from invasion from the
> > start it is best. When the season is over, burn your vines to prevent any
> > larvae from burrowing in your patch for the winter.
> > As far as yellowing, I think you and I were overfertilizing. SVB will
> > usually just cause wilting of a normally healthy looking plant. I cut
back
> > on the N and my girls greened right back up.
> > Good luck Richard, spray the rest of your patch until August.
> >
> >
> > Steve Haberman
> >
> >
> > - -----Original Message-----
> > From: owner-pumpkins@hort.net [o*@hort.net] On Behalf
Of
> > Bart Toftness
> > Sent: Saturday, July 11, 2009 6:28 AM
> > To: pumpkins@hort.net
> > Subject: Re: pumpkins DIGEST V1 #58
> >
> > Sounds like the squash vine bore moth (SVB). What your finding is the
> > larva. The moth lays single eggs on the vines which hatch and bore into
the
> > vines where they destroy the insides and cause that vine to fail.
> > Sevin won't do much for them. The brown/orange stuff you see on the vine
is
> > frass. It's their waste. It is at the entry hole so there will be a larva
> > in the vine near by. You can slice the vine open and remove them but its
> > better to prevent the entry first. Look for Triazicide
> > (sp) which can be found at Lowe's. Spray the vines to kill the svb moth
> > before they lay the eggs. It should also work for the squash bugs (aka
> > stink bugs) which lay groups of reddish brown eggs on the under sides of
> the
> > leaves.
> >
> > Bart
> >
> > Richard Briggs wrote:
> > > Hi Again,
> > >
> > > Thanks for the thoughts Steve. I looked on the internet and didn't
> > > really see any pictures that looked like what is going on with my
> > > pumkins BUT I was out pruning and discovered some type of worm in one
> > > of the stems. Looks like it leaves the same gunk that corn worms leave
> > > on corn so I Sevin-ed them up really good. Hope that works. It's just
> > > that it rained a few hours later and I may need to re-apply.
> > > That brings up the question- What's you all's favorite pumkin
pesticied??
> > > Sevin- Malathione?? I'd love to hear personal experiences from any and
> > all
> > > growers.
> > > Thanks,
> > >
> > > Rich Briggs in St. Louis
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >> Date: Sat, 11 Jul 2009 03:01:04 -0400
> > >> From: pumpkins-owner@hort.net
> > >> To: pumpkins-digest@hort.net
> > >> Subject: pumpkins DIGEST V1 #58
> > >>
> > >>
> > >> pumpkins DIGEST Saturday, July 11 2009 Volume 01 : Number
> > 058
> > >>
> > >>
> > >>
> > >> In this issue:
> > >>
> > >> RE: pumpkins DIGEST V1 #57
> > >> RE: pumpkins DIGEST V1 #57
> > >>
> > >> ---------------------------------------------------------------------
> > >> -
> > >>
> > >> Date: Fri, 10 Jul 2009 09:04:08 -0500
> > >> From: Richard Briggs <briggsrichard@hotmail.com>
> > >> Subject: RE: pumpkins DIGEST V1 #57
> > >>
> > >> Hey Folks,
> > >>
> > >> Little problem- I've got a couple of plants getting yellow at the
> > >> main vine and the yellow is spreading out from the innermost leaves
> > >> ->outward. Then
> > > the
> > >> outer vines get healthy green looking again after a few feet. Am I
> > >> over watering? Getting a fungus? I don't see any insects. The
> > >> affected leaves
> > > get
> > >> yellow, then brown around the edges and finally look like they might
> die.
> > > Wish
> > >> I could include a picture.
> > >>
> > >> I have culled a bunch of prospects on secondaries and I'm thinking of
> > > pruning
> > >> all the secondaries back to 5-6 feet long. Is that okay? Any longer
> > >> or
> > > shorter
> > >> on secondaries in your opinions????
> > >>
> > >> How much vine should I let grow beyond a pumpkin? Is it okay to cull
> > >> all
> > > but
> > >> the end ones so there is more main vine to nourish the pumpkin, Or
> > >> should I let a length of vine grow beyond a good prospect??
> > >>
> > >> Thanks for the advice folks. I just hope I didn't cull too many
already.
> > > I've
> > >> got 10 plants and have taken off about 15 "punklets."
> > >>
> > >> Any advice is truly appreciated.
> > >>
> > >> Rich Briggs in St. Louis
> > >> Date: Fri, 10 Jul 2009 10:40:28 -0400
> > >> From: "Steve Haberman" <shaberman@insmgt.com>
> > >> Subject: RE: pumpkins DIGEST V1 #57
> > >>
> > >> I have the exact same thing going on. I cut back on the N hoping I
> > >> just overfertilized. I watered a lot and it seems to be helping.
> > >>
> > >> Steve Haberman
> > >>
> > >>
> > >> - -----Original Message-----
> > >> From: owner-pumpkins@hort.net [o*@hort.net] On
> > >> Behalf Of Richard Briggs
> > >> Sent: Friday, July 10, 2009 10:04 AM
> > >> To: pumpkin
> > >> Subject: RE: pumpkins DIGEST V1 #57
> > >>
> > >> Hey Folks,
> > >>
> > >> Little problem- I've got a couple of plants getting yellow at the
> > >> main vine and the yellow is spreading out from the innermost leaves
> > >> ->outward. Then the outer vines get healthy green looking again after
> > >> a few feet. Am I over watering? Getting a fungus? I don't see any
> > >> insects. The affected leaves
> > > get
> > >> yellow, then brown around the edges and finally look like they might
> die.
> > >> Wish I could include a picture.
> > >>
> > >> I have culled a bunch of prospects on secondaries and I'm thinking of
> > >> pruning all the secondaries back to 5-6 feet long. Is that okay? Any
> > >> longer or shorter on secondaries in your opinions????
> > >>
> > >> How much vine should I let grow beyond a pumpkin? Is it okay to cull
> > >> all but the end ones so there is more main vine to nourish the
> > >> pumpkin, Or should I let a length of vine grow beyond a good
prospect??
> > >>
> > >> Thanks for the advice folks. I just hope I didn't cull too many
already.
> > >> I've got 10 plants and have taken off about 15 "punklets."
> > >>
> > >> Any advice is truly appreciated.
> > >>
> > >> Rich Briggs in St. Louis
> > >>
> > >> -
> > >> ---------------------------------------------------------------------
> > >>
> > >>
> > >>
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> > >>
> > >> This message was checked by NOD32 antivirus system.
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