RE: pumpkins DIGEST V1 #75

The only thing raccoons love more than sunflower seed is CORN!!!  Knock down a
stalk, take ONE bite out of an ear, repeat all night long or until full.  This
is just one reason farmers hire people with dogs to hunt the varmints down or
employ sundry other methods to end their lives.  And yes, I've read possums
and raccoons make tasty eating if one knows how to prepare the meat.  Maybe
some day before I am reduced to eating blended food.  Steve M.

--- On Wed, 7/29/09, Richard Briggs <briggsrichard@hotmail.com> wrote:

From: Richard Briggs <briggsrichard@hotmail.com>
Subject: RE: pumpkins DIGEST V1 #75
To: "pumpkin" <pumpkins@mallorn.com>
Date: Wednesday, July 29, 2009, 10:33 AM

Hi Everybody,

Rolled a couple of mine over for better position, luckily no stem snapping
problems yet. More of the SVB vine death problem though. I guess I sprayed
too
late but I still keep hoping they'll come back.
I did have the perfect imprint of a 'possum bite on one of the big ones, and
a
Racoon scrape on one of the other big ones out back. Not a real problem yet
but I do have a no-kill trap in case relocation is necessary. Otherwise my
better half's Grandmother (past on last year at the ripe old age of 100, God
rest her soul) passed down a good racoon and possum recipe. I did remember
her
saying that 'Possum was a little greasy though. She's also got a good recipe
for Groundhog in case anybody's interested.
I've got to check the huntin' season on all those. I suspect I'm outta luck
unless I want a fine (or a possible divorce.) I could stand the fine, but
divorce I'm not to keen on.

Actually- just kidding about the hunting part (not the divorce part) but
Grams
did pass the recipes down for future generations.

It seems the Racoons have been busy trying to get the birdseed out of the
feeder- an unintended distraction away from the AG's. I might have to use
this
method more to my advantage.

I DO need to get some tarps over mine. I've been working out of town and
haven't got them placed yet. The weather's been unseasonably cool in St.
Louis
so I've been lucky but August may shape up to be a little warmer??

Thanks everybody for all the good tips for us newbies,

Rich Briggs in St. Louis





> Date: Wed, 29 Jul 2009 03:01:06 -0400
> From: pumpkins-owner@hort.net
> To: pumpkins-digest@hort.net
> Subject: pumpkins DIGEST V1 #75
>
>
> pumpkins DIGEST        Wednesday, July 29 2009        Volume 01 : Number
075
>
>
>
> In this issue:
>
>         Snapped stems.  Fertilizer.
>         Re: The Raccoon Thread
>         Re: Snapped stems. Fertilizer.
>         RE: The Raccoon Thread
>         RE: Snapped stems.  Fertilizer.
>         Re: Snapped stems.  Fertilizer.
>         Shading Pumpkins
>         Re: Shading Pumpkins
>
> ----------------------------------------------------------------------
>
> Date: Tue, 28 Jul 2009 00:25:49 -0700
> From: "Jim" <Jimfire@Jps.Net>
> Subject: Snapped stems.  Fertilizer.
>
> Rats.
>
> The night after I wrote and asked about my pumpkin that was sitting on it's
> stem, it decided to roll over on it's own and snap the stem.
>
> I'm now down to two pumpkins, and based on tomorrow's measurements, I'm
> going to be down to one.
>
> Who has a good source on liquid fertilizer online?  My local stores don't
> seem to carry anything any good.
>
> Also - I'm looking for a good fertilizing schedule to get this thing big.
> What are you pro's out the doing?  How do you apply it, and what are you
> using?
>
>
> Jim
> Date: Tue, 28 Jul 2009 14:34:33 -0400
> From: Bridgette Antoinette Tojek <honeybempowered@gmail.com>
> Subject: Re: The Raccoon Thread
>
> no one likes to kill critters, I never want to remove something from the
> food chain but I am even more disgusted with picking up a carcass- I lost 5
> more birds last night.
> I am not offended in the least, just trying to point out the other side
> because Americans that actually utilize critical thinking skills are in
> short supply
>
> On Mon, Jul 27, 2009 at 11:38 PM, Stephen Jepsen
<ctpumpkin@optonline.net>wrote:
>
> > YIKES! I thought that was a personal email that came from Wayne
> > specifically
> > to me. I too am sorry if I offended anyone especially Alan who I know
hates
> > killing critters. LOL
> >
> > Stephen Jepsen
> > CT GS&PGA Director Emeritus
> > GPC Executive Committee
> > Tel (914) 260-7176
> > Fax (206) 203-2397
> >
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: owner-pumpkins@hort.net [o*@hort.net] On Behalf
> > Of
> > Stephen Jepsen
> > Sent: Monday, July 27, 2009 11:10 PM
> > To: pumpkins@hort.net
> >  Subject: RE: The Raccoon Thread
> >
> > Alan Reynolds was offended but that's just Alan. He cries when a bird
flies
> > into his window. LOL
> >
> > I used to compost the raccoons & squirrels on the edge of the patch then
> > turn them in the following season.
> >
> > We're at the top of the food chain for a damn good reason & I have no
> > intention of giving that pole position to a pumpkin killing varmint.
> >
> > Don't worry about Alan. We're good friends but I'll stand up to him any
> > day.
> > LOL
> >
> > Stephen Jepsen
> > CT GS&PGA Director Emeritus
> > GPC Executive Committee
> > Tel (914) 260-7176
> > Fax (206) 203-2397
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: owner-pumpkins@hort.net [o*@hort.net] On Behalf
> > Of
> > wsmpeace
> > Sent: Monday, July 27, 2009 10:35 PM
> > To: pumpkins@hort.net
> > Subject: Re: The Raccoon Thread
> >
> > Steve, Hopefully no ONE was offended, !!! Everyone has to do, what they
> > have
> >
> > to do!!!! I got out grampa's 410 a couple weeks back, and am 5 for 5!!!
> > Peace, Wayne
> > PS...GROW 'EM BIG!!!!! Dammmmmnnnnndabunnies!!!
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "Steve Minor" <minok2014@yahoo.com>
> > To: <pumpkins@hort.net>
> > Sent: Monday, July 27, 2009 9:03 PM
> > Subject: The Raccoon Thread
> >
> >
> > > I'm sorry if I offended anyone with my remarks about killing raccoons.
I
> > > was
> > > responding to a question about pests damaging AGs, and like spraying
for
> > > insects before they appear, you have to be proactive in managing
mammals
> > > before they damage crops.  I've gone the catch and release route for
many
> > > years, and I've realized I'm just giving my problems to someone else
> > > unless I
> > > transport varmints to the middle of a national forest, which
> > > contributes to
> > > greenhouse gases every time I drive to do it, yadda, yadda yadda.
> > >
> > > If I can control a pest without killing it, that's great.  If I can't,
> > > then
> > > the forum is here to share ideas and solutions to problems.  For many
of
> > > us,
> > > raccoons are a pest like rats or mice, cucumber beetles or squash bugs
> > > because
> > > of the damage they do, and controlling them usually means killing them.
> > To
> > > quote the late Walter Cronkite: "And that's the way it is."
> - --
> Bridgette Antoinette Tojek
> www.i-tang-o.com
> The Angel whispers serenity,and the echo is peace.
> Date: Tue, 28 Jul 2009 16:34:46 -0400
> From: Jordan Rivington <jordan.rivington@gmail.com>
> Subject: Re: Snapped stems. Fertilizer.
>
> On Tue, Jul 28, 2009 at 3:25 AM, Jim <Jimfire@jps.net> wrote:
>
> > Rats.
> >
> > The night after I wrote and asked about my pumpkin that was sitting on
it's
> > stem, it decided to roll over on it's own and snap the stem.
> >
> > I'm now down to two pumpkins, and based on tomorrow's measurements, I'm
> > going to be down to one.
> >
> > Who has a good source on liquid fertilizer online?  My local stores don't
> > seem to carry anything any good.
> >
> > Also - I'm looking for a good fertilizing schedule to get this thing big.
> > What are you pro's out the doing?  How do you apply it, and what are you
> > using?
> >
> >
> > Jim
> >
> > ---------------------------------------------------------------------
>
> [demime 1.01d removed an attachment of type application/vnd]
> Date: Tue, 28 Jul 2009 19:22:18 -0400
> From: "Steve Haberman" <shaberman@insmgt.com>
> Subject: RE: The Raccoon Thread
>
> Do you mean mame? Just poking fun! You are entitled to your opinion and
> theories! I used to trap with my brother after school. We made good money.
> Dad taught us to ALWAYS run the line twice a day in order to be as humane
as
> possible. When I administer a case of lead poisoning to the pests, I do it
> as humanely as possible. I don't kill by choice, it is a neccessary evil.
> For the rest of you scauflaws, I am forwarding your mails admitting state
> wildlife infractions to the authorities! You can't beat me with your
> pumpkins if you are all locked up!
> Live and let Live.....unless it is a stinkin varmit.
>
> Steve Haberman
>
>
> - -----Original Message-----
> From: owner-pumpkins@hort.net [o*@hort.net] On Behalf Of
> mastrpumkn@aol.com
> Sent: Tuesday, July 28, 2009 2:06 AM
> To: pumpkins@hort.net
> Subject: Re: The Raccoon Thread
>
>  It's Alan!? Here's my reply. Yes, I have a greenhouse on the side of my
> home in CT. It was killing birds left and right as the flew around the
house
> into the glass. I cut and installed lattice on the inside of the windows.
> Still let the light in, but looked to small to the birds to fly through it.
> So, I figured it has saved a lot of birds life's. Does anyone remember the
> TV show that had that kid learning the ways of the Masters? They had a
> saying for fighting.? Never kill if you can mane, never mane if you can
just
> injure, never injure if you can walk away. I just won't kill by choice. If
> there is any other option, I think it should be pursued. "There but for the
> grace of God go I " ...and, "I won't draw blood over a pumpkin."? I've
> trapped so many I can't count. I've lost a lot of pumpkins, but I feel I
> made the right decision. Think of the song, Man in the mirror. (Micheal
> Jackson) If you don't know it. Get it and play it. I have no trouble with
> what I see.
>
> ? ? ? Alan Reynolds??? FL, CT
>
>
>
>
>
>
> - -----Original Message-----
> From: Stephen Jepsen <ctpumpkin@optonline.net>
> To: pumpkins@hort.net
> Sent: Mon, Jul 27, 2009 11:38 pm
> Subject: RE: The Raccoon Thread
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> YIKES! I thought that was a personal email that came from Wayne
specifically
> to me. I too am sorry if I offended anyone especially Alan who I know hates
> killing critters. LOL
>
> Stephen Jepsen
> CT GS&PGA Director Emeritus
> GPC Executive Committee
> Tel (914) 260-7176
> Fax (206) 203-2397
>
>
> - -----Original Message-----
> From: owner-pumpkins@hort.net [o*@hort.net] On Behalf Of
> Stephen Jepsen
> Sent: Monday, July 27, 2009 11:10 PM
> To: pumpkins@hort.net
> Subject: RE: The Raccoon Thread
>
> Alan Reynolds was offended but that's just Alan. He cries when a bird flies
> into his window. LOL
>
> I used to compost the raccoons & squirrels on the edge of the patch then
> turn them in the following season.
>
> We're at the top of the food chain for a damn good reason & I have no
> intention of giving that pole position to a pumpkin killing varmint.
>
> Don't worry about Alan. We're good friends but I'll stand up to him any
day.
> LOL
>
> Stephen Jepsen
> CT GS&PGA Director Emeritus
> GPC Executive Committee
> Tel (914) 260-7176
> Fax (206) 203-2397
>
> - -----Original Message-----
> From: owner-pumpkins@hort.net [o*@hort.net] On Behalf Of
> wsmpeace
> Sent: Monday, July 27, 2009 10:35 PM
> To: pumpkins@hort.net
> Subject: Re: The Raccoon Thread
>
> Steve, Hopefully no ONE was offended, !!! Everyone has to do, what they
have
>
> to do!!!! I got out grampa's 410 a couple weeks back, and am 5 for 5!!!
> Peace, Wayne
> PS...GROW 'EM BIG!!!!! Dammmmmnnnnndabunnies!!!
> - ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Steve Minor" <minok2014@yahoo.com>
> To: <pumpkins@hort.net>
> Sent: Monday, July 27, 2009 9:03 PM
> Subject: The Raccoon Thread
>
>
> > I'm sorry if I offended anyone with my remarks about killing raccoons.  I
> > was
> > responding to a question about pests damaging AGs, and like spraying for
> > insects before they appear, you have to be proactive in managing mammals
> > before they damage crops.  I've gone the catch and release route for many
> > years, and I've realized I'm just giving my problems to someone else
> > unless I
> > transport varmints to the middle of a national forest, which
> > contributes to
> > greenhouse gases every time I drive to do it, yadda, yadda yadda.
> >
> > If I can control a pest without killing it, that's great.  If I can't,
> > then
> > the forum is here to share ideas and solutions to problems.  For many of
> > us,
> > raccoons are a pest like rats or mice, cucumber beetles or squash bugs
> > because
> > of the damage they do, and controlling them usually means killing them.
To
> > quote the late Walter Cronkite: "And that's the way it is."
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>
> This message was checked by NOD32 antivirus system.
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> Date: Tue, 28 Jul 2009 19:26:29 -0400
> From: "Steve Haberman" <shaberman@insmgt.com>
> Subject: RE: Snapped stems.  Fertilizer.
>
> I know of a couple of great fertilizers we and our coleagues use
> commercially around here. But if I tell you about them, I will have to kill
> you........humanely.
>
> Monty's Joy Juice. Growth then root and bloom after fruit set. Their carbon
> product works well too for plot prep.
> Sorry, I really can't share my Ace mixture though.
>
> Steve Haberman
>
>
> - -----Original Message-----
> From: owner-pumpkins@hort.net [o*@hort.net] On Behalf Of
> Jim
> Sent: Tuesday, July 28, 2009 3:26 AM
> To: pumpkins@mallorn.com
> Subject: Snapped stems. Fertilizer.
>
> Rats.
>
> The night after I wrote and asked about my pumpkin that was sitting on it's
> stem, it decided to roll over on it's own and snap the stem.
>
> I'm now down to two pumpkins, and based on tomorrow's measurements, I'm
> going to be down to one.
>
> Who has a good source on liquid fertilizer online?  My local stores don't
> seem to carry anything any good.
>
> Also - I'm looking for a good fertilizing schedule to get this thing big.
> What are you pro's out the doing?  How do you apply it, and what are you
> using?
>
>
> Jim
>
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> Date: Tue, 28 Jul 2009 17:30:53 -0700 (PDT)
> From: Steve Minor <minok2014@yahoo.com>
> Subject: Re: Snapped stems.  Fertilizer.
>
> Bummer, Jim.  I started to have that problem, got a bag of sand and shored
the
> AG up AFTER I severed the tap roots in both directions.  A lot of praying,
> swearing, and sweat went into saving that pumpkin, and I learned that it's
> best to put the sand or foamboard or whatever down when the AG is
> grapefruit-sized.  Steve.
>
> - --- On Tue, 7/28/09, Jim <Jimfire@Jps.Net> wrote:
>
> From: Jim <Jimfire@Jps.Net>
> Subject: Snapped stems.  Fertilizer.
> To: pumpkins@mallorn.com
> Date: Tuesday, July 28, 2009, 3:25 AM
>
> Rats.
>
> The night after I wrote and asked about my pumpkin that was sitting on it's
> stem, it decided to roll over on it's own and snap the stem.
>
> I'm now down to two pumpkins, and based on tomorrow's measurements, I'm
> going to be down to one.
>
> Who has a good source on liquid fertilizer online?  My local stores don't
> seem to carry anything any good.
>
> Also - I'm looking for a good fertilizing schedule to get this thing big.
> What are you pro's out the doing?  How do you apply it, and what are you
> using?
>
>
> Jim
> Date: Tue, 28 Jul 2009 17:41:11 -0700 (PDT)
> From: Steve Minor <minok2014@yahoo.com>
> Subject: Shading Pumpkins
>
> I helped to blow my AG last year by not shading it and overdosing on
> potassium.  This year I am NOT overdosing on potassium and shading my AGs.
My
> question is, in this, my second year of attempting a BIG one, how much
shade
> is too much shade? How much of the plant can you shade before you flatline
> it?  Pumpkin and how many feet around it?  Thanks.  Steve.
> Date: Tue, 28 Jul 2009 20:19:21 -0500
> From: "George & Carolyn Heyne" <gheyne@millcomm.com>
> Subject: Re: Shading Pumpkins
>
> I use four 6' posts and stretch a 6'x8' tarp between the posts. The tarp is
> at an angle to allow the rain to run off. I tie the tarp to the post with
> electrical ties. Sometimes I will put a tarp on a side where too much sun
is
> still on the pumpkin. No matter how you shade your pumpkin, you want plenty
> of ventilation around your pumpkin.
>
> George Heyne
> Rochester, MN
>
> - ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Steve Minor" <minok2014@yahoo.com>
> To: <pumpkins@hort.net>
> Sent: Tuesday, July 28, 2009 7:41 PM
> Subject: Shading Pumpkins
>
>
> >I helped to blow my AG last year by not shading it and overdosing on
> > potassium.  This year I am NOT overdosing on potassium and shading my
AGs.
> > My
> > question is, in this, my second year of attempting a BIG one, how much
> > shade
> > is too much shade? How much of the plant can you shade before you
flatline
> > it?  Pumpkin and how many feet around it?  Thanks.  Steve.
> End of pumpkins DIGEST V1 #75
> *****************************

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