Re: pumpkins DIGEST V1 #719
- Subject: Re: pumpkins DIGEST V1 #719
- From: D* R* <y*@att.net>
- Date: Sun, 31 Jul 2011 09:34:11 -0700 (PDT)
I was told that mushroom is one of the best compost to use for gardens. I did
not have another test performed after adding everything. Is there anything I can
do this late in the game? I have given up on installing a drench system since
the plants are too big. From all of the rain we have had, the soil is wet. It
sounds like soil drenching is a possible way of helping the problem, but as I
mentioned in a previous email, I don't even know if that is an option given the
plant sizes, amount of chemicals I would have to add, and the sheer number of
5-gallon buckets I would have to use.
Any ideas?
Debbie
From: Petman <petman2@yahoo.com>
To: "pumpkins@mallorn.com" <pumpkins@mallorn.com>
Sent: Sun, July 31, 2011 9:41:55 AM
Subject: Re: pumpkins DIGEST V1 #719
Mushroom compost has really high nitrogen and salt levels which may be causing
it. Did u have a test after all amendments were in? Sounds like too much
nitrogen to me.
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On Jul 31, 2011, at 1:01 AM, pumpkins-owner@hort.net (pumpkins DIGEST) wrote:
>
> pumpkins DIGEST Sunday, July 31 2011 Volume 01 : Number 719
>
>
>
> In this issue:
>
> Re: HELP!!! females aborting
> Re: Fw: HELP!!! females aborting
> soil drenching
> Re: Fw: HELP!!! females aborting
> Re: Very Sad News From Lorrain Jepsen
> RE: misters - help
> Re: misters - help
> Re: misters - help
>
> ----------------------------------------------------------------------
>
> Date: Sat, 30 Jul 2011 06:30:23 -0700 (PDT)
> From: Debbie Runkle <yorunk13@att.net>
> Subject: Re: HELP!!! females aborting
>
> Billy Bob, doesn't that mean I need a female to actually grow a flower?
>
> Debbie
>
>
>
>
> ________________________________
> From: Billy Bob <mastrpumkn@aol.com>
> To: pumpkins@hort.net
> Sent: Fri, July 29, 2011 11:46:22 PM
> Subject: Re: HELP!!! females aborting
>
> Debbie, If your plant keeps aborting, try selfing it. Often, a plant will
>mutate
>
> where it will only except, or prefer it's own pollen. Like the 895 Hester
> Squash.
>
> - -----Original Message-----
> From: Debbie Runkle <yorunk13@att.net>
> To: pumpkins@hort.net
> Sent: Sat, Jul 30, 2011 1:18 am
> Subject: Re: HELP!!! females aborting
>
> Last fall after I removed about 1300+ sf of grass, I had a soil test done
after
> I tilled it about 5 times and had them interpreted. I also brought in 10
yards
> of mushroom compost this spring and added the soil amendments from the soil
>test
> analysis. I thought I was doing everything ok. One of my plants is from the
> Illinois state record for last year.
>
> Debbie
>
>
>
>
> ________________________________
> From: "dbhaskaran@aol.com" <dbhaskaran@aol.com>
> To: pumpkins@hort.net
> Sent: Fri, July 29, 2011 8:13:46 PM
> Subject: Re: HELP!!! females aborting
>
> Debbie,
> Sometimes these plants are sterile and just don't produce...I had another one
> this year...plus others I've had will grow them to about basketball size and
> then they abort. I have other friends who have seen similar things...probably
> why I grow 10 plants...last year..had just 4 left after it was all said and
> done with a max of 7 one year...I think Kevin Marsh once told me he started
> with 12 and ended up with 3. Just the luck of the draw.
> It for sure can also be environmental as Ray is suggesting...heat or wet on
> the females can stop them from developing not enough calcium, etc, etc.
> I would have a soil sample is done for next year(especially if you didn't this
> year)... Sorry about your season...hopefully something changes.
> David Bhaskaran
> Rochester, MN.
>
>
>
>
>
>
> - -----Original Message-----
> From: LGOURD <LGOURD@aol.com>
> To: pumpkins <pumpkins@hort.net>
> Sent: Fri, Jul 29, 2011 8:47 pm
> Subject: Re: Fw: HELP!!! females aborting
>
>
> What kind of temperatures are you having?
>
>
> n a message dated 7/29/2011 7:21:01 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time,
> orunk13@att.net writes:
> What the hell is going on????
> Debbie
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> Date: Sat, 30 Jul 2011 07:48:12 -0400 (EDT)
> From: LGOURD@aol.com
> Subject: Re: Fw: HELP!!! females aborting
>
> Just too hot - will be better in a cooler weather pattern.
>
>
> In a message dated 7/30/2011 1:12:30 A.M. Eastern Daylight Time,
> yorunk13@att.net writes:
>
> Last week was 90+ with heat indices 105 to 115. I covered the females
> with
> white tables with fans blowing on a frozen bottle to keep cool. I live in
> the
> Chicago area.
>
> Debbie
> Date: Sat, 30 Jul 2011 06:53:29 -0700 (PDT)
> From: Debbie Runkle <yorunk13@att.net>
> Subject: soil drenching
>
> I am in the process of attempting to put in a drip irrigation system. I know
>it
>
> is way to late in the season but I don;t even know how to soil drench anymore
> since the plants are huge. I would have to be running over secondaries, terts,
>
> etc. I have hundreds of dollars invested in the material. I haven't even
> attempted soil drenching since we have had alot of rain the the ground is very
> wet. When the plant was smaller I would use 4 5-gallon bucket with holes
> drilled in the bottom. No problem. Now that the plants are out of control I
>am
>
> not sure what to do. Given the size of the plants, I figure 150 to 200 gallons
>
> at a shot. Any suggestions on what to do that won't be real labor or time
> intensive? 150 to 200 gallons per plant is alot of 5-gallon buckets when the
> soil dries out.
>
> Debbie
> Date: Sat, 30 Jul 2011 06:31:32 -0700 (PDT)
> From: Debbie Runkle <yorunk13@att.net>
> Subject: Re: Fw: HELP!!! females aborting
>
> We are back into the 90's again.
>
>
>
>
> ________________________________
> From: "LGOURD@aol.com" <LGOURD@aol.com>
> To: pumpkins@hort.net
> Sent: Sat, July 30, 2011 5:48:12 AM
> Subject: Re: Fw: HELP!!! females aborting
>
> Just too hot - will be better in a cooler weather pattern.
>
>
> In a message dated 7/30/2011 1:12:30 A.M. Eastern Daylight Time,
> yorunk13@att.net writes:
>
> Last week was 90+ with heat indices 105 to 115. I covered the females
> with
> white tables with fans blowing on a frozen bottle to keep cool. I live in
> the
> Chicago area.
>
> Debbie
> Date: Thu, 28 Jul 2011 16:39:27 -0400 (EDT)
> From: pumpkin253@aol.com
> Subject: Re: Very Sad News From Lorrain Jepsen
>
> Very sad news. The amazing thing about Steve is he never complained or talked
> about his illness as "why me". I will certainly miss our conversations.
>
> Ron W
>
>
>
>
>
>
> - -----Original Message-----
> From: Tom Privitera <tprivitera@optonline.net>
> To: pumpkins <pumpkins@hort.net>
> Sent: Thu, Jul 28, 2011 12:40 pm
> Subject: Very Sad News From Lorrain Jepsen
>
>
> I apologize for using the Hort list, but this and Big Pumpkins.com are the
> asiest ways to reach the majority of growers and Steve Jensen's friends.
> e received very unfortunate news about Steve Jepsen today,
> t is with a heavy heart that I have to inform everyone that Steve was given
> nly days to live.
> e is at home with Hospice care trying to make him as comfortable as
> ossible.
> orraine wanted to thank everyone for their support and friendship.
> f there is anyone near CT that would like to donate a few small field
> umpkins, Lorraine would really appreciate it.
> rop me an email if you have any.
> et's everyone say a prayer for Steve, I can only hope that he moves on to a
> etter place where he no longer suffers.
> om
> Tom Privitera
> xtreme Web Sales, Inc.
> 600 South Rd Suite 44 -154
> oughkeepsie, New York 12601
> ww.extremepumpkinstore.com
> ales@extremepumpkinstore.com
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> Date: Fri, 22 Jul 2011 11:51:59 -0400
> From: "Steve Haberman" <shaberman@insmgt.com>
> Subject: RE: misters - help
>
> It has been in triple digits here all week. My vines are thriving from, I
> assume, plenty of water. My squash and melons are doing well also. I run the
> soakers for @ 8 to 10 hours every other day. The soil is damp but not
> drenched. I believe soaking the leaves in the sun is actually more
> detrimental. It will actually burn them from the intense sun. If you put
> them to bed wet you are going to have fungi and powdery mildew problems.
> Drench your soil from below the canopy. I give @ 80 - 100 gallons of water
> to them per session. I am fortunate to have sandy loam and glacial till
> which has ideal drainage properties. Hang in there....cool down by Monday!!!
>
> Steve Haberman
>
>
> - -----Original Message-----
> From: owner-pumpkins@hort.net [o*@hort.net] On Behalf Of
> Debbie Runkle
> Sent: Friday, July 22, 2011 10:47 AM
> To: pumpkins@hort.net
> Subject: Re: misters - help
>
> Ok, I was doing what someone suggested. THe vines are getting water from
> the
> sprinkler but I agree about the potential fungus problem. What do you do to
>
> keep the plants cool and prevent heat stress?
>
> Debbie
>
>
>
>
> ________________________________
> From: Steve Haberman <shaberman@insmgt.com>
> To: pumpkins@hort.net
> Sent: Fri, July 22, 2011 7:17:05 AM
> Subject: RE: misters - help
>
> Deb,
> Misting the tops of the leaves in this humid weather is asking for a fungal
> disaster. As long as your vines are getting water, they will be fine.
>
> Steve Haberman
>
>
> - -----Original Message-----
> From: owner-pumpkins@hort.net [o*@hort.net] On Behalf Of
> Debbie Runkle
> Sent: Friday, July 22, 2011 8:55 AM
> To: pumpkins@hort.net
> Subject: Re: misters - help
>
> I would like to mist the leaves from the top to help cool them down and help
>
> with flagging during the 90+ days. My next project is a drip system using
> PVC
> but don't even want to address that until I get the misters figured out.
>
> Debbie
>
>
>
>
> ________________________________
> From: Steve Haberman <shaberman@insmgt.com>
> To: pumpkins@hort.net
> Sent: Thu, July 21, 2011 7:51:51 PM
> Subject: RE: misters - help
>
> Soaker hose. T tape. I am as smart as a chimpanzee and they are working like
> a charm in 100-102 degree weather.
>
> Steve Haberman
>
>
> - -----Original Message-----
> From: owner-pumpkins@hort.net [o*@hort.net] On Behalf Of
> Debbie Runkle
> Sent: Thursday, July 21, 2011 9:24 PM
> To: pumpkins@hort.net
> Subject: Re: misters - help
>
> What is a booster pump? I was thinking of filling my rain barrel with
> water,
> running hose from barrel to inline pump to 1/4 inch tubing. I could time
> how
> long it takes to drain the barrel and keep the garden hose running to match
> the
> flow. The other thing is I have another 6 misters around my second plant.
> Ideally I would like to tie these into the first plant for a matter of ease.
>
> The inline pump is 1/2 HP.
>
> Debbie
>
>
>
>
> ________________________________
> From: DAVID ASMAN <kingdavid1.uk@btopenworld.com>
> To: pumpkins@hort.net
> Sent: Thu, July 21, 2011 5:03:58 PM
> Subject: Re: misters - help
>
> You may need a booster pump.
>
> David
>
>
> - ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Debbie Runkle" <yorunk13@att.net>
> To: "pumpkin" <pumpkins@hort.net>
> Sent: Thursday, July 21, 2011 11:14 PM
> Subject: misters - help
>
>
>> I finished setting up my mister system today. My garden hose puts out
> about 5
>> to 6 gpm. Out of the 7 misters on the plant, only 2 or 3 work as they are
>> suppose to, the rest either just drip or have a very small amount coming
> out.
>> Anybody have any suggestions?
>>
>> Debbie
> Date: Thu, 21 Jul 2011 18:23:39 -0700 (PDT)
> From: Debbie Runkle <yorunk13@att.net>
> Subject: Re: misters - help
>
> What is a booster pump? I was thinking of filling my rain barrel with water,
> running hose from barrel to inline pump to 1/4 inch tubing. I could time how
> long it takes to drain the barrel and keep the garden hose running to match the
>
> flow. The other thing is I have another 6 misters around my second plant.
> Ideally I would like to tie these into the first plant for a matter of ease.
> The inline pump is 1/2 HP.
>
> Debbie
>
>
>
>
> ________________________________
> From: DAVID ASMAN <kingdavid1.uk@btopenworld.com>
> To: pumpkins@hort.net
> Sent: Thu, July 21, 2011 5:03:58 PM
> Subject: Re: misters - help
>
> You may need a booster pump.
>
> David
>
>
> - ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Debbie Runkle" <yorunk13@att.net>
> To: "pumpkin" <pumpkins@hort.net>
> Sent: Thursday, July 21, 2011 11:14 PM
> Subject: misters - help
>
>
>> I finished setting up my mister system today. My garden hose puts out
> about 5
>> to 6 gpm. Out of the 7 misters on the plant, only 2 or 3 work as they are
>> suppose to, the rest either just drip or have a very small amount coming
> out.
>> Anybody have any suggestions?
>>
>> Debbie
> Date: Sat, 23 Jul 2011 11:01:08 -0700 (PDT)
> From: Debbie Runkle <yorunk13@att.net>
> Subject: Re: misters - help
>
> I don't think I have any Monty's or if I do have it it is 3 or 4 years old. I
> do have Jacks Bloom booster that I could use in conjunction with the 3-18-18
> unless it would be too much. THe female that I was babying by keeping it cool
> during the hot weather had now aborted. This sucks.
>
> Debbie
>
>
>
>
>
> ________________________________
> From: Steve Haberman <shaberman@insmgt.com>
> To: pumpkins@hort.net
> Sent: Sat, July 23, 2011 11:46:21 AM
> Subject: RE: misters - help
>
> I had great luck with a Shultz Bloom Plus 10-54-10 in combination with
> Monty's Joy Juice Root and Bloom. I went from a few males to pollination of
> 3-4 females on each vine in 6 days. I am now culling 40 or so males off the
> vines per day. I put the Shultz right to the stumps and foliar fed the
> Monty's. I could not believe the flowers that appeared after these
> treatments.
> Shultz @ 2 Tsp/gallon
> Monty's @ 1/2 Tsp/gallon
> Hope this helps you.
>
> Steve Haberman
>
>
> - -----Original Message-----
> From: owner-pumpkins@hort.net [o*@hort.net] On Behalf Of
> pompipumpkin@aol.com
> Sent: Saturday, July 23, 2011 1:34 PM
> To: pumpkins@hort.net
> Subject: Re: misters - help
>
> I have not pollinated either. vines are short and just males. something
> weird this year
>
> where can I send my soil and leaves for test if you know Also I want to try
> find nys growers
>
> so I can see what I might be doing wrong
>
> thanks
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> - -----Original Message-----
> From: Debbie Runkle <yorunk13@att.net>
> To: pumpkins <pumpkins@hort.net>
> Sent: Sat, Jul 23, 2011 9:20 am
> Subject: Re: misters - help
>
>
> I haven't even pollinated yet. Some of my males were aborting along with a
> ouple of females. I started using 3-18-18 at someone's suggestion which i
> did
> ot know about. It will be at least a week before I can even consider
> ollination.
> Debbie
>
>
> _______________________________
> rom: Steve Haberman <shaberman@insmgt.com>
> o: pumpkins@hort.net
> ent: Fri, July 22, 2011 9:59:51 AM
> ubject: RE: misters - help
> Deb,
> t is quite normal to have an absorption lag during the heat of the day.
> specially on the vine site downstream from your fruit. The problem with
> his heat is at night (Krebs Cycle). The plants aren't getting the down time
> hey need with hot humid nights. If you can shade them somehow it may help.
> hat is a lot of work as you know how big these guys get.
> Steve Haberman
>
> - -----Original Message-----
> rom: owner-pumpkins@hort.net [o*@hort.net] On Behalf Of
> ebbie Runkle
> ent: Friday, July 22, 2011 10:47 AM
> o: pumpkins@hort.net
> ubject: Re: misters - help
> Ok, I was doing what someone suggested. THe vines are getting water from
> he
> prinkler but I agree about the potential fungus problem. What do you do to
> keep the plants cool and prevent heat stress?
> Debbie
>
>
> _______________________________
> rom: Steve Haberman <shaberman@insmgt.com>
> o: pumpkins@hort.net
> ent: Fri, July 22, 2011 7:17:05 AM
> ubject: RE: misters - help
> Deb,
> isting the tops of the leaves in this humid weather is asking for a fungal
> isaster. As long as your vines are getting water, they will be fine.
> Steve Haberman
>
> - ----Original Message-----
> rom: owner-pumpkins@hort.net [o*@hort.net] On Behalf Of
> ebbie Runkle
> ent: Friday, July 22, 2011 8:55 AM
> o: pumpkins@hort.net
> ubject: Re: misters - help
> I would like to mist the leaves from the top to help cool them down and help
> with flagging during the 90+ days. My next project is a drip system using
> VC
> ut don't even want to address that until I get the misters figured out.
> Debbie
>
>
> _______________________________
> rom: Steve Haberman <shaberman@insmgt.com>
> o: pumpkins@hort.net
> ent: Thu, July 21, 2011 7:51:51 PM
> ubject: RE: misters - help
> Soaker hose. T tape. I am as smart as a chimpanzee and they are working like
> charm in 100-102 degree weather.
> Steve Haberman
>
> - ----Original Message-----
> rom: owner-pumpkins@hort.net [o*@hort.net] On Behalf Of
> ebbie Runkle
> ent: Thursday, July 21, 2011 9:24 PM
> o: pumpkins@hort.net
> ubject: Re: misters - help
> What is a booster pump? I was thinking of filling my rain barrel with
> ater,
> unning hose from barrel to inline pump to 1/4 inch tubing. I could time
> ow
> ong it takes to drain the barrel and keep the garden hose running to match
> he
> low. The other thing is I have another 6 misters around my second plant.
> deally I would like to tie these into the first plant for a matter of ease.
> The inline pump is 1/2 HP.
> Debbie
>
>
> _______________________________
> rom: DAVID ASMAN <kingdavid1.uk@btopenworld.com>
> o: pumpkins@hort.net
> ent: Thu, July 21, 2011 5:03:58 PM
> ubject: Re: misters - help
> You may need a booster pump.
> David
>
> - ---- Original Message -----
> rom: "Debbie Runkle" <yorunk13@att.net>
> o: "pumpkin" <pumpkins@hort.net>
> ent: Thursday, July 21, 2011 11:14 PM
> ubject: misters - help
>
> I finished setting up my mister system today. My garden hose puts out
> bout 5
> to 6 gpm. Out of the 7 misters on the plant, only 2 or 3 work as they are
> suppose to, the rest either just drip or have a very small amount coming
> ut.
> Anybody have any suggestions?
>
> Debbie
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