Re: pumpkins DIGEST V1 #720
- Subject: Re: pumpkins DIGEST V1 #720
- From: P* <p*@yahoo.com>
- Date: Sun, 31 Jul 2011 09:56:55 -0700
Mushroom compost is very good but in moderation. My suggestion is to stop guessing, get another test and indicate the issue to the testing co, and then adjust. Too hard to know otherwise. Did the plants go gang busters? Maybe too much testosterone (nitrogen) to put out girls. Best of luck.
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On Jul 31, 2011, at 9:34 AM, pumpkins-owner@hort.net (pumpkins DIGEST) wrote:
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> pumpkins DIGEST Sunday, July 31 2011 Volume 01 : Number 720
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> In this issue:
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> Re: pumpkins DIGEST V1 #719
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> Date: Sun, 31 Jul 2011 09:34:11 -0700 (PDT)
> From: Debbie Runkle <yorunk13@att.net>
> Subject: Re: pumpkins DIGEST V1 #719
>
> I was told that mushroom is one of the best compost to use for gardens. I did
> not have another test performed after adding everything. Is there anything I can
> do this late in the game? I have given up on installing a drench system since
> the plants are too big. From all of the rain we have had, the soil is wet. It
> sounds like soil drenching is a possible way of helping the problem, but as I
> mentioned in a previous email, I don't even know if that is an option given the
> plant sizes, amount of chemicals I would have to add, and the sheer number of
> 5-gallon buckets I would have to use.
>
> Any ideas?
>
>
> Debbie
>
>
>
> From: Petman <petman2@yahoo.com>
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> To: "pumpkins@mallorn.com" <pumpkins@mallorn.com>
> Sent: Sun, July 31, 2011 9:41:55 AM
> Subject: Re: pumpkins DIGEST V1 #719
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> Mushroom compost has really high nitrogen and salt levels which may be causing
> it. Did u have a test after all amendments were in? Sounds like too much
> nitrogen to me.
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> On Jul 31, 2011, at 1:01 AM, pumpkins-owner@hort.net (pumpkins DIGEST) wrote:
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>>
>> pumpkins DIGEST Sunday, July 31 2011 Volume 01 : Number 719
>>
>>
>>
>> In this issue:
>>
>> Re: HELP!!! females aborting
>> Re: Fw: HELP!!! females aborting
>> soil drenching
>> Re: Fw: HELP!!! females aborting
>> Re: Very Sad News From Lorrain Jepsen
>> RE: misters - help
>> Re: misters - help
>> Re: misters - help
>>
>> ----------------------------------------------------------------------
>>
>> Date: Sat, 30 Jul 2011 06:30:23 -0700 (PDT)
>> From: Debbie Runkle <yorunk13@att.net>
>> Subject: Re: HELP!!! females aborting
>>
>> Billy Bob, doesn't that mean I need a female to actually grow a flower?
>>
>> Debbie
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> ________________________________
>> From: Billy Bob <mastrpumkn@aol.com>
>> To: pumpkins@hort.net
>> Sent: Fri, July 29, 2011 11:46:22 PM
>> Subject: Re: HELP!!! females aborting
>>
>> Debbie, If your plant keeps aborting, try selfing it. Often, a plant will
>> mutate
>>
>> where it will only except, or prefer it's own pollen. Like the 895 Hester
>> Squash.
>>
>> - -----Original Message-----
>> From: Debbie Runkle <yorunk13@att.net>
>> To: pumpkins@hort.net
>> Sent: Sat, Jul 30, 2011 1:18 am
>> Subject: Re: HELP!!! females aborting
>>
>> Last fall after I removed about 1300+ sf of grass, I had a soil test done
> after
>> I tilled it about 5 times and had them interpreted. I also brought in 10
> yards
>> of mushroom compost this spring and added the soil amendments from the soil
>> test
>> analysis. I thought I was doing everything ok. One of my plants is from the
>> Illinois state record for last year.
>>
>> Debbie
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> ________________________________
>> From: "dbhaskaran@aol.com" <dbhaskaran@aol.com>
>> To: pumpkins@hort.net
>> Sent: Fri, July 29, 2011 8:13:46 PM
>> Subject: Re: HELP!!! females aborting
>>
>> Debbie,
>> Sometimes these plants are sterile and just don't produce...I had another one
>> this year...plus others I've had will grow them to about basketball size and
>> then they abort. I have other friends who have seen similar things...probably
>> why I grow 10 plants...last year..had just 4 left after it was all said and
>> done with a max of 7 one year...I think Kevin Marsh once told me he started
>> with 12 and ended up with 3. Just the luck of the draw.
>> It for sure can also be environmental as Ray is suggesting...heat or wet on
>> the females can stop them from developing not enough calcium, etc, etc.
>> I would have a soil sample is done for next year(especially if you didn't this
>> year)... Sorry about your season...hopefully something changes.
>> David Bhaskaran
>> Rochester, MN.
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> - -----Original Message-----
>> From: LGOURD <LGOURD@aol.com>
>> To: pumpkins <pumpkins@hort.net>
>> Sent: Fri, Jul 29, 2011 8:47 pm
>> Subject: Re: Fw: HELP!!! females aborting
>>
>>
>> What kind of temperatures are you having?
>>
>>
>> n a message dated 7/29/2011 7:21:01 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time,
>> orunk13@att.net writes:
>> What the hell is going on????
>> Debbie
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>> Date: Sat, 30 Jul 2011 07:48:12 -0400 (EDT)
>> From: LGOURD@aol.com
>> Subject: Re: Fw: HELP!!! females aborting
>>
>> Just too hot - will be better in a cooler weather pattern.
>>
>>
>> In a message dated 7/30/2011 1:12:30 A.M. Eastern Daylight Time,
>> yorunk13@att.net writes:
>>
>> Last week was 90+ with heat indices 105 to 115. I covered the females
>> with
>> white tables with fans blowing on a frozen bottle to keep cool. I live in
>> the
>> Chicago area.
>>
>> Debbie
>> Date: Sat, 30 Jul 2011 06:53:29 -0700 (PDT)
>> From: Debbie Runkle <yorunk13@att.net>
>> Subject: soil drenching
>>
>> I am in the process of attempting to put in a drip irrigation system. I know
>> it
>>
>> is way to late in the season but I don;t even know how to soil drench anymore
>> since the plants are huge. I would have to be running over secondaries, terts,
>>
>> etc. I have hundreds of dollars invested in the material. I haven't even
>> attempted soil drenching since we have had alot of rain the the ground is very
>
>> wet. When the plant was smaller I would use 4 5-gallon bucket with holes
>> drilled in the bottom. No problem. Now that the plants are out of control I
>> am
>>
>> not sure what to do. Given the size of the plants, I figure 150 to 200 gallons
>>
>> at a shot. Any suggestions on what to do that won't be real labor or time
>> intensive? 150 to 200 gallons per plant is alot of 5-gallon buckets when the
>> soil dries out.
>>
>> Debbie
>> Date: Sat, 30 Jul 2011 06:31:32 -0700 (PDT)
>> From: Debbie Runkle <yorunk13@att.net>
>> Subject: Re: Fw: HELP!!! females aborting
>>
>> We are back into the 90's again.
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> ________________________________
>> From: "LGOURD@aol.com" <LGOURD@aol.com>
>> To: pumpkins@hort.net
>> Sent: Sat, July 30, 2011 5:48:12 AM
>> Subject: Re: Fw: HELP!!! females aborting
>>
>> Just too hot - will be better in a cooler weather pattern.
>>
>>
>> In a message dated 7/30/2011 1:12:30 A.M. Eastern Daylight Time,
>> yorunk13@att.net writes:
>>
>> Last week was 90+ with heat indices 105 to 115. I covered the females
>> with
>> white tables with fans blowing on a frozen bottle to keep cool. I live in
>> the
>> Chicago area.
>>
>> Debbie
>> Date: Thu, 28 Jul 2011 16:39:27 -0400 (EDT)
>> From: pumpkin253@aol.com
>> Subject: Re: Very Sad News From Lorrain Jepsen
>>
>> Very sad news. The amazing thing about Steve is he never complained or talked
>> about his illness as "why me". I will certainly miss our conversations.
>>
>> Ron W
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> - -----Original Message-----
>> From: Tom Privitera <tprivitera@optonline.net>
>> To: pumpkins <pumpkins@hort.net>
>> Sent: Thu, Jul 28, 2011 12:40 pm
>> Subject: Very Sad News From Lorrain Jepsen
>>
>>
>> I apologize for using the Hort list, but this and Big Pumpkins.com are the
>> asiest ways to reach the majority of growers and Steve Jensen's friends.
>> e received very unfortunate news about Steve Jepsen today,
>> t is with a heavy heart that I have to inform everyone that Steve was given
>> nly days to live.
>> e is at home with Hospice care trying to make him as comfortable as
>> ossible.
>> orraine wanted to thank everyone for their support and friendship.
>> f there is anyone near CT that would like to donate a few small field
>> umpkins, Lorraine would really appreciate it.
>> rop me an email if you have any.
>> et's everyone say a prayer for Steve, I can only hope that he moves on to a
>> etter place where he no longer suffers.
>> om
>> Tom Privitera
>> xtreme Web Sales, Inc.
>> 600 South Rd Suite 44 -154
>> oughkeepsie, New York 12601
>> ww.extremepumpkinstore.com
>> ales@extremepumpkinstore.com
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>> Date: Fri, 22 Jul 2011 11:51:59 -0400
>> From: "Steve Haberman" <shaberman@insmgt.com>
>> Subject: RE: misters - help
>>
>> It has been in triple digits here all week. My vines are thriving from, I
>> assume, plenty of water. My squash and melons are doing well also. I run the
>> soakers for @ 8 to 10 hours every other day. The soil is damp but not
>> drenched. I believe soaking the leaves in the sun is actually more
>> detrimental. It will actually burn them from the intense sun. If you put
>> them to bed wet you are going to have fungi and powdery mildew problems.
>> Drench your soil from below the canopy. I give @ 80 - 100 gallons of water
>> to them per session. I am fortunate to have sandy loam and glacial till
>> which has ideal drainage properties. Hang in there....cool down by Monday!!!
>>
>> Steve Haberman
>>
>>
>> - -----Original Message-----
>> From: owner-pumpkins@hort.net [o*@hort.net] On Behalf Of
>> Debbie Runkle
>> Sent: Friday, July 22, 2011 10:47 AM
>> To: pumpkins@hort.net
>> Subject: Re: misters - help
>>
>> Ok, I was doing what someone suggested. THe vines are getting water from
>> the
>> sprinkler but I agree about the potential fungus problem. What do you do to
>>
>> keep the plants cool and prevent heat stress?
>>
>> Debbie
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> ________________________________
>> From: Steve Haberman <shaberman@insmgt.com>
>> To: pumpkins@hort.net
>> Sent: Fri, July 22, 2011 7:17:05 AM
>> Subject: RE: misters - help
>>
>> Deb,
>> Misting the tops of the leaves in this humid weather is asking for a fungal
>> disaster. As long as your vines are getting water, they will be fine.
>>
>> Steve Haberman
>>
>>
>> - -----Original Message-----
>> From: owner-pumpkins@hort.net [o*@hort.net] On Behalf Of
>> Debbie Runkle
>> Sent: Friday, July 22, 2011 8:55 AM
>> To: pumpkins@hort.net
>> Subject: Re: misters - help
>>
>> I would like to mist the leaves from the top to help cool them down and help
>>
>> with flagging during the 90+ days. My next project is a drip system using
>> PVC
>> but don't even want to address that until I get the misters figured out.
>>
>> Debbie
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> ________________________________
>> From: Steve Haberman <shaberman@insmgt.com>
>> To: pumpkins@hort.net
>> Sent: Thu, July 21, 2011 7:51:51 PM
>> Subject: RE: misters - help
>>
>> Soaker hose. T tape. I am as smart as a chimpanzee and they are working like
>> a charm in 100-102 degree weather.
>>
>> Steve Haberman
>>
>>
>> - -----Original Message-----
>> From: owner-pumpkins@hort.net [o*@hort.net] On Behalf Of
>> Debbie Runkle
>> Sent: Thursday, July 21, 2011 9:24 PM
>> To: pumpkins@hort.net
>> Subject: Re: misters - help
>>
>> What is a booster pump? I was thinking of filling my rain barrel with
>> water,
>> running hose from barrel to inline pump to 1/4 inch tubing. I could time
>> how
>> long it takes to drain the barrel and keep the garden hose running to match
>> the
>> flow. The other thing is I have another 6 misters around my second plant.
>> Ideally I would like to tie these into the first plant for a matter of ease.
>>
>> The inline pump is 1/2 HP.
>>
>> Debbie
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> ________________________________
>> From: DAVID ASMAN <kingdavid1.uk@btopenworld.com>
>> To: pumpkins@hort.net
>> Sent: Thu, July 21, 2011 5:03:58 PM
>> Subject: Re: misters - help
>>
>> You may need a booster pump.
>>
>> David
>>
>>
>> - ----- Original Message -----
>> From: "Debbie Runkle" <yorunk13@att.net>
>> To: "pumpkin" <pumpkins@hort.net>
>> Sent: Thursday, July 21, 2011 11:14 PM
>> Subject: misters - help
>>
>>
>>> I finished setting up my mister system today. My garden hose puts out
>> about 5
>>> to 6 gpm. Out of the 7 misters on the plant, only 2 or 3 work as they are
>>> suppose to, the rest either just drip or have a very small amount coming
>> out.
>>> Anybody have any suggestions?
>>>
>>> Debbie
>> Date: Thu, 21 Jul 2011 18:23:39 -0700 (PDT)
>> From: Debbie Runkle <yorunk13@att.net>
>> Subject: Re: misters - help
>>
>> What is a booster pump? I was thinking of filling my rain barrel with water,
>> running hose from barrel to inline pump to 1/4 inch tubing. I could time how
>> long it takes to drain the barrel and keep the garden hose running to match the
>>
>> flow. The other thing is I have another 6 misters around my second plant.
>> Ideally I would like to tie these into the first plant for a matter of ease.
>> The inline pump is 1/2 HP.
>>
>> Debbie
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> ________________________________
>> From: DAVID ASMAN <kingdavid1.uk@btopenworld.com>
>> To: pumpkins@hort.net
>> Sent: Thu, July 21, 2011 5:03:58 PM
>> Subject: Re: misters - help
>>
>> You may need a booster pump.
>>
>> David
>>
>>
>> - ----- Original Message -----
>> From: "Debbie Runkle" <yorunk13@att.net>
>> To: "pumpkin" <pumpkins@hort.net>
>> Sent: Thursday, July 21, 2011 11:14 PM
>> Subject: misters - help
>>
>>
>>> I finished setting up my mister system today. My garden hose puts out
>> about 5
>>> to 6 gpm. Out of the 7 misters on the plant, only 2 or 3 work as they are
>>> suppose to, the rest either just drip or have a very small amount coming
>> out.
>>> Anybody have any suggestions?
>>>
>>> Debbie
>> Date: Sat, 23 Jul 2011 11:01:08 -0700 (PDT)
>> From: Debbie Runkle <yorunk13@att.net>
>> Subject: Re: misters - help
>>
>> I don't think I have any Monty's or if I do have it it is 3 or 4 years old. I
>
>> do have Jacks Bloom booster that I could use in conjunction with the 3-18-18
>> unless it would be too much. THe female that I was babying by keeping it cool
>
>> during the hot weather had now aborted. This sucks.
>>
>> Debbie
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> ________________________________
>> From: Steve Haberman <shaberman@insmgt.com>
>> To: pumpkins@hort.net
>> Sent: Sat, July 23, 2011 11:46:21 AM
>> Subject: RE: misters - help
>>
>> I had great luck with a Shultz Bloom Plus 10-54-10 in combination with
>> Monty's Joy Juice Root and Bloom. I went from a few males to pollination of
>> 3-4 females on each vine in 6 days. I am now culling 40 or so males off the
>> vines per day. I put the Shultz right to the stumps and foliar fed the
>> Monty's. I could not believe the flowers that appeared after these
>> treatments.
>> Shultz @ 2 Tsp/gallon
>> Monty's @ 1/2 Tsp/gallon
>> Hope this helps you.
>>
>> Steve Haberman
>>
>>
>> - -----Original Message-----
>> From: owner-pumpkins@hort.net [o*@hort.net] On Behalf Of
>> pompipumpkin@aol.com
>> Sent: Saturday, July 23, 2011 1:34 PM
>> To: pumpkins@hort.net
>> Subject: Re: misters - help
>>
>> I have not pollinated either. vines are short and just males. something
>> weird this year
>>
>> where can I send my soil and leaves for test if you know Also I want to try
>> find nys growers
>>
>> so I can see what I might be doing wrong
>>
>> thanks
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> - -----Original Message-----
>> From: Debbie Runkle <yorunk13@att.net>
>> To: pumpkins <pumpkins@hort.net>
>> Sent: Sat, Jul 23, 2011 9:20 am
>> Subject: Re: misters - help
>>
>>
>> I haven't even pollinated yet. Some of my males were aborting along with a
>> ouple of females. I started using 3-18-18 at someone's suggestion which i
>> did
>> ot know about. It will be at least a week before I can even consider
>> ollination.
>> Debbie
>>
>>
>> _______________________________
>> rom: Steve Haberman <shaberman@insmgt.com>
>> o: pumpkins@hort.net
>> ent: Fri, July 22, 2011 9:59:51 AM
>> ubject: RE: misters - help
>> Deb,
>> t is quite normal to have an absorption lag during the heat of the day.
>> specially on the vine site downstream from your fruit. The problem with
>> his heat is at night (Krebs Cycle). The plants aren't getting the down time
>> hey need with hot humid nights. If you can shade them somehow it may help.
>> hat is a lot of work as you know how big these guys get.
>> Steve Haberman
>>
>> - -----Original Message-----
>> rom: owner-pumpkins@hort.net [o*@hort.net] On Behalf Of
>> ebbie Runkle
>> ent: Friday, July 22, 2011 10:47 AM
>> o: pumpkins@hort.net
>> ubject: Re: misters - help
>> Ok, I was doing what someone suggested. THe vines are getting water from
>> he
>> prinkler but I agree about the potential fungus problem. What do you do to
>> keep the plants cool and prevent heat stress?
>> Debbie
>>
>>
>> _______________________________
>> rom: Steve Haberman <shaberman@insmgt.com>
>> o: pumpkins@hort.net
>> ent: Fri, July 22, 2011 7:17:05 AM
>> ubject: RE: misters - help
>> Deb,
>> isting the tops of the leaves in this humid weather is asking for a fungal
>> isaster. As long as your vines are getting water, they will be fine.
>> Steve Haberman
>>
>> - ----Original Message-----
>> rom: owner-pumpkins@hort.net [o*@hort.net] On Behalf Of
>> ebbie Runkle
>> ent: Friday, July 22, 2011 8:55 AM
>> o: pumpkins@hort.net
>> ubject: Re: misters - help
>> I would like to mist the leaves from the top to help cool them down and help
>> with flagging during the 90+ days. My next project is a drip system using
>> VC
>> ut don't even want to address that until I get the misters figured out.
>> Debbie
>>
>>
>> _______________________________
>> rom: Steve Haberman <shaberman@insmgt.com>
>> o: pumpkins@hort.net
>> ent: Thu, July 21, 2011 7:51:51 PM
>> ubject: RE: misters - help
>> Soaker hose. T tape. I am as smart as a chimpanzee and they are working like
>> charm in 100-102 degree weather.
>> Steve Haberman
>>
>> - ----Original Message-----
>> rom: owner-pumpkins@hort.net [o*@hort.net] On Behalf Of
>> ebbie Runkle
>> ent: Thursday, July 21, 2011 9:24 PM
>> o: pumpkins@hort.net
>> ubject: Re: misters - help
>> What is a booster pump? I was thinking of filling my rain barrel with
>> ater,
>> unning hose from barrel to inline pump to 1/4 inch tubing. I could time
>> ow
>> ong it takes to drain the barrel and keep the garden hose running to match
>> he
>> low. The other thing is I have another 6 misters around my second plant.
>> deally I would like to tie these into the first plant for a matter of ease.
>> The inline pump is 1/2 HP.
>> Debbie
>>
>>
>> _______________________________
>> rom: DAVID ASMAN <kingdavid1.uk@btopenworld.com>
>> o: pumpkins@hort.net
>> ent: Thu, July 21, 2011 5:03:58 PM
>> ubject: Re: misters - help
>> You may need a booster pump.
>> David
>>
>> - ---- Original Message -----
>> rom: "Debbie Runkle" <yorunk13@att.net>
>> o: "pumpkin" <pumpkins@hort.net>
>> ent: Thursday, July 21, 2011 11:14 PM
>> ubject: misters - help
>>
>> I finished setting up my mister system today. My garden hose puts out
>> bout 5
>> to 6 gpm. Out of the 7 misters on the plant, only 2 or 3 work as they are
>> suppose to, the rest either just drip or have a very small amount coming
>> ut.
>> Anybody have any suggestions?
>>
>> Debbie
>> umpkin-growing archives: http://www.hort.net/lists/pumpkins/
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