Re: Hybridized Plants.--Includings AG's


In a message dated 7/30/99 4:55:32 PM Eastern Daylight Time, 
Innealtoir@aol.com writes:

> On a slightly different tangent, we have bred certain vegetables and grains 
 
>  to enhance commercial properties.  We would like to have tomatoes that 
ripen 
> 
>  all at once on a plant instead of over a period of 2 months,  By 
hybridizing 
> 
>  to enhance commercial properties like bigger fruit or higher yields, we 
are 
>  winding up with strains that are more susceptible to problems than thier 
>  ancestors. That is one reason why there has been an effort retain some 
seeds 
> 
>  of the original plants. Some of the new species do not have the vigor of 
>  their predecssors.
>  We may be doing the same with AGs.  Selection for size and weight may 
> produce 
>  plants more temperamental and less resistant  to the various problems we 
> seem 
>  to encounter.
>  In a sense, we are reversing the process of natural selection as far as 
AGs 
>  are concerned.  No real problem here since AGs are raised more for fun 
than 
>  food.
>  I, at least, do not propose to eat any part of any that I might grow. 
After 
>  all, 
>  don't most of us  feel our pumpkins are akin to family?. (:>)
>  
>   INNEALTOIR

Well, hybridizing is totally different from genetic manipulation! Hybridizing 
is still a form of enhanced natural selection. But in F1 hybrids and extreme 
crossing, it does cause problems, since it reduces the variability of each 
plant. So if one disease hit that struck one F1, the chances that all of them 
will be wiped out is greater than if there was some more genetic diversity 
with each plant. So in nature, F1 hybrids would have a hard time surviving 
and reproducing since we crossed out most of the variability which they would 
need to survive as a species. Now in controlled gardening, F1 hybrids (or 
partial hybrids) have an enhanced vigor and the best of all of the qualities 
that you want, for THAT generation anyway. So this certainly is a good thing. 
AG's don't need to be equipped to survive "in the wild"! We DO need to save 
all of the seed stock though, since those can't be replaced once they are 
gone. It would be like setting up a complex model, then throwing away the 
instructions. If something ever goes wrong, there is nothing left to go by to 
put it back together. And for backcrossing, we need these seeds. As for 
reducing vigor in AG's. Not really. We are basically breeding for size. Now 
if a pumpkins gets to be 700 or more pounds, I would say that plants probably 
have a good deal of vigor and resistance to diseases, etc. to get to be that 
size. So in effect we are also breeding for vigor and resistance. Of course 
since EVERYONE uses pesticides, chemical fertilizers, fungicides, we are also 
breeding them to thrive on these things, and if someone decided not to use 
all of this, they might not make it as good.


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